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Criminals should be punished, actually. Legalizing crime or treating it as an unserious problem leads to situations like you have in SF and LA today, with windo

Criminals should be punished, actually. Legalizing crime or treating it as an unserious problem leads to situations like you have in SF and LA today, with window smashings and retail theft etc. highly common despite recent improvements in law enforcement.

tzs 1y ago
The biggest change I recall it making is raising the boundary between misdemeanor and felony from $400 to $950, but raising that is something that most states were doing in the first couple of decades of this century, with most going to $1000 or $1500. $950 is the 12th lowest. It's hard to blame increased crime on that since so many other states (big and small, red and blue) have a higher limit.
supertimor 1y ago
As the other poster pointed out, California, in fact, has one of the lowest felony theft thresholds out of any of the states. In fact, it has the 12th lowest felony threshold in the union. [1] Of the top 15 states with the highest felony thresholds, only 4 of them are Democratic states. Two states are purple (but have voted red in the last election). So, it would seem Republicans states actually tend to have the highest felony threshold amounts across the US. It was actually Oklahoma who started the trend to increase the felony threshold in the early 2000s. Do you want to know which states have the highest felony theft thresholds? It’s Texas and Wisconsin at $2500. In 2014, California went from a threshold of $400 to $950. In 2015, Texas went from a threshold of $1500 to $2500, so California’s threshold has always been much lower even in the recent past. [2] On top of that, California actually repealed parts of prop 47 in 2024. [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/felony-theft-amount-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/felony-thef... [2] https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2017/04/the-effects-of-changing-felony-theft-thresholds https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-bri...

tzs 1y ago

The biggest change I recall it making is raising the boundary between misdemeanor and felony from $400 to $950, but raising that is something that most states were doing in the first couple of decades of this century, with most going to $1000 or $1500. $950 is the 12th lowest. It's hard to blame increased crime on that since so many other states (big and small, red and blue) have a higher limit.

supertimor 1y ago

As the other poster pointed out, California, in fact, has one of the lowest felony theft thresholds out of any of the states. In fact, it has the 12th lowest felony threshold in the union. [1] Of the top 15 states with the highest felony thresholds, only 4 of them are Democratic states. Two states are purple (but have voted red in the last election). So, it would seem Republicans states actually tend to have the highest felony threshold amounts across the US. It was actually Oklahoma who started the trend to increase the felony threshold in the early 2000s. Do you want to know which states have the highest felony theft thresholds? It’s Texas and Wisconsin at $2500. In 2014, California went from a threshold of $400 to $950. In 2015, Texas went from a threshold of $1500 to $2500, so California’s threshold has always been much lower even in the recent past. [2] On top of that, California actually repealed parts of prop 47 in 2024. [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/felony-theft-amount-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/felony-thef... [2] https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2017/04/the-effects-of-changing-felony-theft-thresholds https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-bri...