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Conservatives and a lot of moderates are single issue voters. As long as trump protects babies or props up the right religious ideology, they're fine with ever
by chneu 1y ago
Conservatives and a lot of moderates are single issue voters.
As long as trump protects babies or props up the right religious ideology, they're fine with everything else.
I recently read "Strangers in their own Land". The author interviewed hundreds of conservatives in the south. The jist was that as Christians they should protect the environment, but the oil refinery will bring jobs. The jobs are more important. So they'll vote for the jobs.
It's really that simple. Republicans have mastered single issue stances. They don't need to be honest or trustworthy.
- Herring 1y agohttps://www.brookings.edu/articles/america-has-two-economies-and-theyre-diverging-fast/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/america-has-two-economies.... (2019) Going by that analysis (specifically differences in age, education, immigration) it looks kinda like massive brain drain from red into blue areas. Single issue voting is a low-nuance likely low-iq thing. Also keep in mind 54% of Americans read at or below a 6th grade level, so I’d guess brain drain can be devastating.
- chneu 1y agoThis is exactly what conservatives say. That colleges are cesspools of woke liberal ideology. What that really means is colleges give people experiences that aren't possible in conservative areas. Then those people don't return because living in conservative areas sucks.
- seec 1y agoMaybe you lack perspective because you have been confortable your whole life? What use does "the environment" have if you cannot afford to live? The jobs necessarily come before the environment because they are the requirement for survival that makes any of it matter. Only rich self-righteous people can afford to care about the environment and the irony is that those people are rich and can do a lot of posturing around these issues, precisely because those poor people exist to take those jobs.
- Herring 1y ago> What use does "the environment" have if you cannot afford to live? There are plenty of extremely poor people in the world who don’t use that as an excuse to try destroy others - and often themselves. Plenty. Travel and you’ll meet a few. Selling your soul to the devil is always a choice.
- seec 1y agoYou are misrepresenting exploitation of local ressources as "selling your soul to the devil". This is such a bad faith way to present the situation. There is absolutely no plan to "destroy others" the fact that you try to argue that this is one of their goals is just bonkers. The externalities around oil are not just local but also global, so if they accept to deal with the consequences locally because they think the benefits are superior, who are you to judge in their place. It's not like if they refuse to drill and get the oil, someone else won't provide it to the market from somewhere else. They would be subjected to the global externalities just as well but zero benefits and just avoidance of local externalities (which they could at least control somewhat). You are speaking as if they are simple-minded and this is an easy problem. The only one over-simplifying things there, is you. Are you supposed to be a "well-traveled" person? If that is the case, one could argue that it comes with the side effect of dishonesty and bad faith arguments. You should get dumped with no money/ressource somewhere in Africa (let's say Congo) to see how long it takes you to start working on a cobalt mine or something similar to survive. Pretending to have the moral high-ground is extremely easy when you lack nothing and don't have to fight for your survival.
- chneu 1y agoI grew up rural, poor, and conservative. Ranching, hunting, farming. That was me until I traveled and experienced people who aren't selfish conquerers who believe all their actions are justified if you just say sorry to god.