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The Democrats refusing to admit the economy was terrible for working people was enough. Of course it will be worse now.

mcphage 1y ago
> The Democrats refusing to admit the economy was terrible for working people was enough. That's a fine topic for a real conversation, but it was 100% not what the person I replied to was talking about. > Of course it will be worse now. Yes. So the Democrat's message of "The economy is improving" is a bad lie even though it was true, and "I'll make the economy the best ever" is a good lie even though it's false?
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- bluefirebrand 1y ago
  > "The economy is improving" is a bad lie even though it was true It doesn't matter if it is true, when it isn't really benefitting your average person in any meaningful way > "I'll make the economy the best ever" is a good lie even though it's false? You have to understand that the lie Trump is telling isn't "I'll make the economy better", it is "I am going to make it so you, a person, has more money and can afford things you want to buy" Average People don't care about "the economy" they care about their bank accounts and their ability to buy and own things they want to buy Trump makes empty promises that he will make people's actual lives better in ways that matter to them The Democrats make empty promises that they will make "society" better, whatever that means.
  - mcphage 1y ago
    > The Democrats make empty promises that they will make "society" better, whatever that means. Don't we, in fact, live in a society? I'm pretty sure someone told me that once.
    - bluefirebrand 1y ago
      We sure do! But I don't really believe that many of the problems in society can be improved by the government from the top down Some can, like access to healthcare and regulations and such But most problems in society today imo are caused by trying to offload social responsibility to the government and corporations rather than people living in their communities
- femiagbabiaka 1y ago
  > Yes. So the Democrat's message of "The economy is improving" is a bad lie even though it was true, and "I'll make the economy the best ever" is a good lie even though it's false? Yes, unfortunately, because an incumbent has to run against the state of the world during the election cycle, and their opponent gets to run against it. And yes, Trump created the terrible economy that Biden inherited. But it doesn't matter. Kamala and her campaign should've realized that early and switched course.

> The Democrats refusing to admit the economy was terrible for working people was enough. That's a fine topic for a real conversation, but it was 100% not what the person I replied to was talking about. > Of course it will be worse now. Yes. So the Democrat's message of "The economy is improving" is a bad lie even though it was true, and "I'll make the economy the best ever" is a good lie even though it's false?

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bluefirebrand 1y ago
> "The economy is improving" is a bad lie even though it was true It doesn't matter if it is true, when it isn't really benefitting your average person in any meaningful way > "I'll make the economy the best ever" is a good lie even though it's false? You have to understand that the lie Trump is telling isn't "I'll make the economy better", it is "I am going to make it so you, a person, has more money and can afford things you want to buy" Average People don't care about "the economy" they care about their bank accounts and their ability to buy and own things they want to buy Trump makes empty promises that he will make people's actual lives better in ways that matter to them The Democrats make empty promises that they will make "society" better, whatever that means.
- mcphage 1y ago
  > The Democrats make empty promises that they will make "society" better, whatever that means. Don't we, in fact, live in a society? I'm pretty sure someone told me that once.
  - bluefirebrand 1y ago
    We sure do! But I don't really believe that many of the problems in society can be improved by the government from the top down Some can, like access to healthcare and regulations and such But most problems in society today imo are caused by trying to offload social responsibility to the government and corporations rather than people living in their communities
femiagbabiaka 1y ago
> Yes. So the Democrat's message of "The economy is improving" is a bad lie even though it was true, and "I'll make the economy the best ever" is a good lie even though it's false? Yes, unfortunately, because an incumbent has to run against the state of the world during the election cycle, and their opponent gets to run against it. And yes, Trump created the terrible economy that Biden inherited. But it doesn't matter. Kamala and her campaign should've realized that early and switched course.