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>a) I am currently a victim of other people's choices. You're not a victim in a democracy when your candidate looses and have to put up with the policies you d

>a) I am currently a victim of other people's choices. You're not a victim in a democracy when your candidate looses and have to put up with the policies you don't like but which are popular with the majority of the voting population. It's the feature of democracy, not a bug. Grow up. >Acting like this is just "politics as usual" IT IS politics as usual. Always has been when you look at history. The difference is now you have Twitter and social media to rile you up for the sake of monetizing engagement. Lay off social media and your TDS will heal itself naturally. > Do you support his rise to dictator As someone born in a dictatorship, you have no idea what a dictatorship actually is. If you were in a dictatorship, a black Volga would show up at your door and arrest you for your previous comment. You don't have the right to complain in a dictatorship, let alone to vote.

sillyfluke 1y ago
I don't see why you don't apply some good faith reasoning for the other side to see the poster's point. Looking at it from a broader perspective, it's perfectly possible to be a victim of a Biden admin and a Trump admin. If you went back in time and voted for the other guy but end up getting screwed in some other or same way by the other candidate -- which is very likely -- you could easily claim that you're a victim no matter who you vote for. Cause at the end of the day you're essentially voting for the lesser of two evils. And if they both are "evil" in some form then it wouldn't be out of place for you to suffer in one context or another no matter who the president is. That's why voting against the incumbent is a thing. You're not voting for Trump, you're voting against Biden hoping (not knowing) Trump will be better, because if things are shitty already, voting for Biden seems like doing the same thing and expecting different results. And viewing Americans as victims also has a pragmatic benefit because you allow people who have buyer's remorse to speak up about the things they regret about the guy they voted for. >as someone who was born in a dictatorship Since you were born in one, it stands to reason you didn't see a country drift towards one in realtime. It can very much be a boiling the frog sort of thing depending on how the pieces on the board are arranged.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  >you didn't see a country drift towards one in realtime What are history books for then? I live in a country that's doing that, and it's not like the US.
Tadpole9181 1y ago
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- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  >What an utterly absurd statement. And comparing the election of Trump to the election of Hitler is not absurd? I'll end this conversation here due to you not being willing to argue in good faith. Please have a read on the history of WW1, Weimar Republic and the circumstances that led to Hitler getting elected, including the election process, then maybe you can stop bringing up the Hitler every time someone mentions Trump.
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cycomanic 1y ago
> >a) I am currently a victim of other people's choices. > > You're not a victim in a democracy when your candidate looses and have to put up with the policies you don't like but which are popular with the majority of the voting population. It's the feature of democracy, not a bug. Grow up. > > >Acting like this is just "politics as usual" > > IT IS politics as usual. Always has been when you look at history. The difference is now you have Twitter and social media to rile you up for the sake of monetizing engagement. Lay off social media and your TDS will heal itself naturally. > > > Do you support his rise to dictator > > As someone born in a dictatorship, you have no idea what a dictatorship actually is. If you were in a dictatorship, a black Volga would show up at your door and arrest you for your previous comment. You don't have the right to complain in a dictatorship, let alone to vote. Funny that you mention it, this is exactly what's is happening. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwit0IOK0buNAxVrgK8BHcASDVkQFnoECCsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2025%2F03%2F27%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftufts-ice-crackdown.html&usg=AOvVaw1kXpT0qXPb_MopkTYapPfa&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwit...
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Left wing propaganda if such an event makes a dictatorship. Deporting foreign political agitators and aggressors who break the terms of their visa is just proper law enforcement, not dictatorship. Hope to see more of this.
const_cast 1y ago
> TDS will heal itself naturally. Pointing out what Trump is doing and saying, verbatim, is not some type of insanity. You speak of a lack of accountability and in the same breath denounce reality. You ask us to subscribe to a delusion because it's more convenient.

sillyfluke 1y ago

I don't see why you don't apply some good faith reasoning for the other side to see the poster's point. Looking at it from a broader perspective, it's perfectly possible to be a victim of a Biden admin and a Trump admin. If you went back in time and voted for the other guy but end up getting screwed in some other or same way by the other candidate -- which is very likely -- you could easily claim that you're a victim no matter who you vote for. Cause at the end of the day you're essentially voting for the lesser of two evils. And if they both are "evil" in some form then it wouldn't be out of place for you to suffer in one context or another no matter who the president is. That's why voting against the incumbent is a thing. You're not voting for Trump, you're voting against Biden hoping (not knowing) Trump will be better, because if things are shitty already, voting for Biden seems like doing the same thing and expecting different results. And viewing Americans as victims also has a pragmatic benefit because you allow people who have buyer's remorse to speak up about the things they regret about the guy they voted for. >as someone who was born in a dictatorship Since you were born in one, it stands to reason you didn't see a country drift towards one in realtime. It can very much be a boiling the frog sort of thing depending on how the pieces on the board are arranged.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>you didn't see a country drift towards one in realtime What are history books for then? I live in a country that's doing that, and it's not like the US.

Tadpole9181 1y ago

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FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>What an utterly absurd statement. And comparing the election of Trump to the election of Hitler is not absurd? I'll end this conversation here due to you not being willing to argue in good faith. Please have a read on the history of WW1, Weimar Republic and the circumstances that led to Hitler getting elected, including the election process, then maybe you can stop bringing up the Hitler every time someone mentions Trump.
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
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cycomanic 1y ago

> >a) I am currently a victim of other people's choices. > > You're not a victim in a democracy when your candidate looses and have to put up with the policies you don't like but which are popular with the majority of the voting population. It's the feature of democracy, not a bug. Grow up. > > >Acting like this is just "politics as usual" > > IT IS politics as usual. Always has been when you look at history. The difference is now you have Twitter and social media to rile you up for the sake of monetizing engagement. Lay off social media and your TDS will heal itself naturally. > > > Do you support his rise to dictator > > As someone born in a dictatorship, you have no idea what a dictatorship actually is. If you were in a dictatorship, a black Volga would show up at your door and arrest you for your previous comment. You don't have the right to complain in a dictatorship, let alone to vote. Funny that you mention it, this is exactly what's is happening. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwit0IOK0buNAxVrgK8BHcASDVkQFnoECCsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2025%2F03%2F27%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftufts-ice-crackdown.html&usg=AOvVaw1kXpT0qXPb_MopkTYapPfa&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwit...

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
Left wing propaganda if such an event makes a dictatorship. Deporting foreign political agitators and aggressors who break the terms of their visa is just proper law enforcement, not dictatorship. Hope to see more of this.

const_cast 1y ago

> TDS will heal itself naturally. Pointing out what Trump is doing and saying, verbatim, is not some type of insanity. You speak of a lack of accountability and in the same breath denounce reality. You ask us to subscribe to a delusion because it's more convenient.