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You cannot jump over immigration requirements "just because you're powerful", and the vast majority of them are not US citizens.

mandmandam 1y ago
> You cannot jump over immigration requirements You probably will be able to soon though, and it 'only' costs $5m: "A ‘Trump Card Visa’ Is Already Showing Up in Immigration Forms" [0] I couldn't blame you for not having seen this though. It was quickly flagged and never whitelisted; like so, so many other important stories here this past few months. Check my favorites for more falsely flagged stories. 0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43921421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43921421
londons_explore 1y ago
They could easily get an E2 entrepreneur visa, and the necessary cash is as little as $300k, most of which can be withdrawn later, so it's effectively a free citizenship as long as you have cash.
- EduardoBautista 1y ago
  E2 visa is not available to everyone. Notably Indian and Chinese citizens are not eligible. And that is a large chunk of international students.
ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
You could probably get round immigration requirements by "gifting" a jet or something
- moralestapia 1y ago
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  - Terr_ 1y ago
    "That's a fantasy" is just substance-free scoffing, be specific. Ex: 1. "Trump isn't that corrupt." 2. "They'll try, but federal law will successfully interrupt the bribe at some stage." 3. "That hyper-exact event is improbable... but perhaps a slightly different favor or a different way of Trump extracting personal gain." P.S.: For more context, two days ago Trump's Secretary of Commerce was promoting website to go live this week for selling (personally invented, illegal) "Gold Card" visas. https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/business/us-gold-card-investor-visa https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/business/us-gold-card-investo...
    - moralestapia 1y ago
      >be specific Again, again, again ... I don't have to! Because I didn't bring the argument into the conversation. Burden of proof [1] should be a required reading before posting on this site. Even the upcoming "Gold Card" visas you mention, which are indeed the closest thing to this idea, come with some additional requirements that no money in the world can circumvent. It is a fantasy, whether you all like it or not. Life is not a James Bond movie. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
      - Terr_ 1y ago
        > Burden of proof [1] should be a required reading before posting on this site. Ironic, then, that you don't understand it. You've confused "Burden of proof" with "Burden of imagining an argument for someone else who was too lazy to actually make one." Let's try that out: "If you disagree with me, you are wrong and insane, because of reasons that you will have to find for yourself. Insert evil cackle here." > Even the upcoming "Gold Card" visas [...] come with some additional requirements that no money in the world can circumvent. Oh my, look! A golden opportunity for you to show off your honest commitment to (real) Burden of Proof. Yes, share with us these unnamed "additional requirements" you claim exist. (Hopefully not inside an invisible dragon in your garage.) Since you assert they are not subject to corrupt presidential whims and waivers, that must mean they are federal statute, in which case linking to them should be a breeze.
- lightbendover 1y ago
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anigbrowl 1y ago
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mandmandam 1y ago

> You cannot jump over immigration requirements You probably will be able to soon though, and it 'only' costs $5m: "A ‘Trump Card Visa’ Is Already Showing Up in Immigration Forms" [0] I couldn't blame you for not having seen this though. It was quickly flagged and never whitelisted; like so, so many other important stories here this past few months. Check my favorites for more falsely flagged stories. 0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43921421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43921421

londons_explore 1y ago

They could easily get an E2 entrepreneur visa, and the necessary cash is as little as $300k, most of which can be withdrawn later, so it's effectively a free citizenship as long as you have cash.

EduardoBautista 1y ago
E2 visa is not available to everyone. Notably Indian and Chinese citizens are not eligible. And that is a large chunk of international students.

ndsipa_pomu 1y ago

You could probably get round immigration requirements by "gifting" a jet or something

moralestapia 1y ago
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- Terr_ 1y ago
  "That's a fantasy" is just substance-free scoffing, be specific. Ex: 1. "Trump isn't that corrupt." 2. "They'll try, but federal law will successfully interrupt the bribe at some stage." 3. "That hyper-exact event is improbable... but perhaps a slightly different favor or a different way of Trump extracting personal gain." P.S.: For more context, two days ago Trump's Secretary of Commerce was promoting website to go live this week for selling (personally invented, illegal) "Gold Card" visas. https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/business/us-gold-card-investor-visa https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/business/us-gold-card-investo...
  - moralestapia 1y ago
    >be specific Again, again, again ... I don't have to! Because I didn't bring the argument into the conversation. Burden of proof [1] should be a required reading before posting on this site. Even the upcoming "Gold Card" visas you mention, which are indeed the closest thing to this idea, come with some additional requirements that no money in the world can circumvent. It is a fantasy, whether you all like it or not. Life is not a James Bond movie. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
    - Terr_ 1y ago
      > Burden of proof [1] should be a required reading before posting on this site. Ironic, then, that you don't understand it. You've confused "Burden of proof" with "Burden of imagining an argument for someone else who was too lazy to actually make one." Let's try that out: "If you disagree with me, you are wrong and insane, because of reasons that you will have to find for yourself. Insert evil cackle here." > Even the upcoming "Gold Card" visas [...] come with some additional requirements that no money in the world can circumvent. Oh my, look! A golden opportunity for you to show off your honest commitment to (real) Burden of Proof. Yes, share with us these unnamed "additional requirements" you claim exist. (Hopefully not inside an invisible dragon in your garage.) Since you assert they are not subject to corrupt presidential whims and waivers, that must mean they are federal statute, in which case linking to them should be a breeze.
lightbendover 1y ago
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anigbrowl 1y ago

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