4 ms·

Yeah. Sure. Let me know how your wife will feel if someone was living in your crawl space as an art project, “slipping an envelope of cash” under your door ever

Yeah. Sure. Let me know how your wife will feel if someone was living in your crawl space as an art project, “slipping an envelope of cash” under your door every month.

deleted 1y ago
[deleted]
palmotea 1y ago
> Yeah. Sure. Let me know how your wife will feel if someone was living in your crawl space as an art project, “slipping an envelope of cash” under your door every month. No. That's apples and oranges, especially when you're talking about feelings. "Your crawl space" is part of a very intimate and personal space: your home. This space (a void of the type where construction workers don't clean up their trash) was part of a impersonal and pseudo-public space: a shopping mall. Your analogy doesn't hold up.
- doctorpangloss 1y ago
  Okay... let's imagine someone is living in your driveway, a "psuedo-public space", or perhaps your townhome's parking lot, a "psuedo-public space," or maybe in the parking lot of the daycare you take your kids to, a "psuedo-public space," or...
  - palmotea 1y ago
    Sorry dude, you can't save it. Also a home's driveway is not a "psuedo-public space, so I don't think you get the concept.
    - doctorpangloss 1y ago
      I'm supportive of visual artists being obnoxious as part of their artwork. It isn't material to me if they did or didn't pay whatever, it's part of their joke that they know what they are doing is unauthorized but marginally (or not at all) harmful. It's cute, for sure, and you know, I didn't watch the documentary, so what do I really know? It's a very interesting piece. Here we are talking about it, it's kind of interesting to figure out, what does "palmotea" define as "pseudo-public space"?. In my experience in art practice, it is hard to participate in a conversation with people who define things by what they are NOT. That said, to me, a great strength of a lot of performance art is its ability to attract high drama personalities. But it is tautological to say that drawing the participation of high drama personalities occurs because the art trades on obnoxiousness?
      - palmotea 1y ago
        > what does "palmotea" define as "pseudo-public space"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space > ...the phrase in its broadest sense can refer to places, like shopping malls and hotel lobbies, that are privately owned and open to the public, even if they are not legally required to be open to the public. Otherwise, you're kinda going off the rails. My one and only point is there are important differences between a home's crawl space and a weird unused space in a shopping mall that make your specific appeal to "how your wife will feel" invalid. This secret mall apartment is more akin to a homeless guy having a hidden camp in a verge near a highway than anything to do with anyone's home. If you're going to appeal to how someone would feel, you've got to get the emotion right.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
DrewADesign 1y ago
It's a mall. The analogy to someone secretly squatting in your home while you occupy it is, frankly, ridiculous.

Yeah. Sure. Let me know how your wife will feel if someone was living in your crawl space as an art project, “slipping an envelope of cash” under your door every month.

deleted 1y ago

[deleted]

palmotea 1y ago

> Yeah. Sure. Let me know how your wife will feel if someone was living in your crawl space as an art project, “slipping an envelope of cash” under your door every month. No. That's apples and oranges, especially when you're talking about feelings. "Your crawl space" is part of a very intimate and personal space: your home. This space (a void of the type where construction workers don't clean up their trash) was part of a impersonal and pseudo-public space: a shopping mall. Your analogy doesn't hold up.

doctorpangloss 1y ago
Okay... let's imagine someone is living in your driveway, a "psuedo-public space", or perhaps your townhome's parking lot, a "psuedo-public space," or maybe in the parking lot of the daycare you take your kids to, a "psuedo-public space," or...
- palmotea 1y ago
  Sorry dude, you can't save it. Also a home's driveway is not a "psuedo-public space, so I don't think you get the concept.
  - doctorpangloss 1y ago
    I'm supportive of visual artists being obnoxious as part of their artwork. It isn't material to me if they did or didn't pay whatever, it's part of their joke that they know what they are doing is unauthorized but marginally (or not at all) harmful. It's cute, for sure, and you know, I didn't watch the documentary, so what do I really know? It's a very interesting piece. Here we are talking about it, it's kind of interesting to figure out, what does "palmotea" define as "pseudo-public space"?. In my experience in art practice, it is hard to participate in a conversation with people who define things by what they are NOT. That said, to me, a great strength of a lot of performance art is its ability to attract high drama personalities. But it is tautological to say that drawing the participation of high drama personalities occurs because the art trades on obnoxiousness?
    - palmotea 1y ago
      > what does "palmotea" define as "pseudo-public space"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space > ...the phrase in its broadest sense can refer to places, like shopping malls and hotel lobbies, that are privately owned and open to the public, even if they are not legally required to be open to the public. Otherwise, you're kinda going off the rails. My one and only point is there are important differences between a home's crawl space and a weird unused space in a shopping mall that make your specific appeal to "how your wife will feel" invalid. This secret mall apartment is more akin to a homeless guy having a hidden camp in a verge near a highway than anything to do with anyone's home. If you're going to appeal to how someone would feel, you've got to get the emotion right.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]

DrewADesign 1y ago

It's a mall. The analogy to someone secretly squatting in your home while you occupy it is, frankly, ridiculous.