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Sure, but if alcohol didn't get you drunk consumption would plummet 95%.

OJFord 1y ago
I wouldn't be so sure... I'm certain my own would increase. (Assuming 'get you drunk' means something like 'contain ethanol' i.e. no 'buzz' or whatever but also no adverse effect on liver, the next day, ...). If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.
- alisonatwork 1y ago
  Tea and coffee don't have to be sweet either, and there are lots of cold versions of those.
  - kranner 1y ago
    Also plenty of traditional cold drinks that are savoury or can be savoury: doogh, ayran, lassi, jaljeera, buttermilk, kvass
    - aziaziazi 1y ago
      I’ll add legumes juices : both raw, fresh blend or the water from a soup that you separate and put in a fridge. Those are delicious. Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it?
      - kranner 1y ago
        > Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it? I think only as much as kombucha, not enough to cause a buzz
      - thesz 1y ago
        Of about kefir percentage. Kwas has 0.5-1.5% ABV, kefir has 0.02-2.0% ABV.
    - OJFord 1y ago
      I guess simply 'milk' I also missed, which is a bit sweet of course but I wasn't intending to lump it in with fruit juices and added-sugar drinks. I did almost mention jaljeera, but thought that might be a bit niche. It is also often sweetened though. I've never known not-sweet lassi though? Salted lassi is still sweet underneath, like salted caramel, ime. We could count it with the sweet-ish milk drinks, anyway.
      - kranner 1y ago
        Lassi is a traditional drink where I’m from and contains only salt traditionally. Sweetened lassi is a relatively recent restaurant-led innovation. When I was a kid “lassi” meant salted; you had to specify “sweet lassi” for the sweetened version.
  - metaphor 1y ago
    To be fair, the concept of iced tea as an objective desire is considered the provenance of blasphemous original sin by a not insignificant percentage of natives where the parent hails from.
- astura 1y ago
  >If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water. Uh, no. There's also seltzer, flavored seltzer, flavored water, iced tea, iced coffee, herbal infusions (like hibiscus, rooibos, honeybush, etc), broth, milk and plant based milk alternatives, and fermented drinks like kombucha + kefir. That's just off the top of my head. Hibiscus even has the benefit of helping regulate blood pressure. I almost never drink sweet drinks or plain water and rarely drink alcohol. My fluid consumption is almost entirely: hot tea, iced tea, kombucha, and hibiscus infusion. Sometimes seltzer. Sometimes coffee.
nitwit005 1y ago
That seems unlikely. Non alcoholic drinks are already an enormous market, and people would have less reason to limit consumption with the health downside removed.

I wouldn't be so sure... I'm certain my own would increase. (Assuming 'get you drunk' means something like 'contain ethanol' i.e. no 'buzz' or whatever but also no adverse effect on liver, the next day, ...). If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.

alisonatwork 1y ago
Tea and coffee don't have to be sweet either, and there are lots of cold versions of those.
- kranner 1y ago
  Also plenty of traditional cold drinks that are savoury or can be savoury: doogh, ayran, lassi, jaljeera, buttermilk, kvass
  - aziaziazi 1y ago
    I’ll add legumes juices : both raw, fresh blend or the water from a soup that you separate and put in a fridge. Those are delicious. Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it?
    - kranner 1y ago
      > Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it? I think only as much as kombucha, not enough to cause a buzz
    - thesz 1y ago
      Of about kefir percentage. Kwas has 0.5-1.5% ABV, kefir has 0.02-2.0% ABV.
  - OJFord 1y ago
    I guess simply 'milk' I also missed, which is a bit sweet of course but I wasn't intending to lump it in with fruit juices and added-sugar drinks. I did almost mention jaljeera, but thought that might be a bit niche. It is also often sweetened though. I've never known not-sweet lassi though? Salted lassi is still sweet underneath, like salted caramel, ime. We could count it with the sweet-ish milk drinks, anyway.
    - kranner 1y ago
      Lassi is a traditional drink where I’m from and contains only salt traditionally. Sweetened lassi is a relatively recent restaurant-led innovation. When I was a kid “lassi” meant salted; you had to specify “sweet lassi” for the sweetened version.
- metaphor 1y ago
  To be fair, the concept of iced tea as an objective desire is considered the provenance of blasphemous original sin by a not insignificant percentage of natives where the parent hails from.
astura 1y ago
>If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water. Uh, no. There's also seltzer, flavored seltzer, flavored water, iced tea, iced coffee, herbal infusions (like hibiscus, rooibos, honeybush, etc), broth, milk and plant based milk alternatives, and fermented drinks like kombucha + kefir. That's just off the top of my head. Hibiscus even has the benefit of helping regulate blood pressure. I almost never drink sweet drinks or plain water and rarely drink alcohol. My fluid consumption is almost entirely: hot tea, iced tea, kombucha, and hibiscus infusion. Sometimes seltzer. Sometimes coffee.

nitwit005 1y ago

That seems unlikely. Non alcoholic drinks are already an enormous market, and people would have less reason to limit consumption with the health downside removed.