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Getting drunk is literally poisoning yourself. Some humans just happen to enjoy the symptoms of said poison.
by bobxmax 1y ago
Getting drunk is literally poisoning yourself. Some humans just happen to enjoy the symptoms of said poison.
- accrual 1y agoKind of reminds me of dolphins taking turns chewing on pufferfish, apparently for fun/altered states. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dolphins-seem-to-use-toxic-pufferfish-to-get-high-180948219/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dolphins-seem-to-u...
- nitwit005 1y agoMost people aren't getting drunk every time they drink. Try wine and grape juice side by side. Baring truly awful wine, the wine will taste better (I suppose you could have awful grape juice too, but, you get the idea).
- bobxmax 1y agoSure, but if alcohol didn't get you drunk consumption would plummet 95%.
- OJFord 1y agoI wouldn't be so sure... I'm certain my own would increase. (Assuming 'get you drunk' means something like 'contain ethanol' i.e. no 'buzz' or whatever but also no adverse effect on liver, the next day, ...). If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.
- alisonatwork 1y agoTea and coffee don't have to be sweet either, and there are lots of cold versions of those.
- kranner 1y agoAlso plenty of traditional cold drinks that are savoury or can be savoury: doogh, ayran, lassi, jaljeera, buttermilk, kvass
- aziaziazi 1y agoI’ll add legumes juices : both raw, fresh blend or the water from a soup that you separate and put in a fridge. Those are delicious. Kvaas contain alcohol, doesn’t it?
- OJFord 1y agoI guess simply 'milk' I also missed, which is a bit sweet of course but I wasn't intending to lump it in with fruit juices and added-sugar drinks. I did almost mention jaljeera, but thought that might be a bit niche. It is also often sweetened though. I've never known not-sweet lassi though? Salted lassi is still sweet underneath, like salted caramel, ime. We could count it with the sweet-ish milk drinks, anyway.
- kranner 1y agoLassi is a traditional drink where I’m from and contains only salt traditionally. Sweetened lassi is a relatively recent restaurant-led innovation. When I was a kid “lassi” meant salted; you had to specify “sweet lassi” for the sweetened version.
- metaphor 1y agoTo be fair, the concept of iced tea as an objective desire is considered the provenance of blasphemous original sin by a not insignificant percentage of natives where the parent hails from.
- astura 1y ago>If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water. Uh, no. There's also seltzer, flavored seltzer, flavored water, iced tea, iced coffee, herbal infusions (like hibiscus, rooibos, honeybush, etc), broth, milk and plant based milk alternatives, and fermented drinks like kombucha + kefir. That's just off the top of my head. Hibiscus even has the benefit of helping regulate blood pressure. I almost never drink sweet drinks or plain water and rarely drink alcohol. My fluid consumption is almost entirely: hot tea, iced tea, kombucha, and hibiscus infusion. Sometimes seltzer. Sometimes coffee.
- nitwit005 1y agoThat seems unlikely. Non alcoholic drinks are already an enormous market, and people would have less reason to limit consumption with the health downside removed.
- kranner 1y agoTaste is subjective. To people not used to consuming any alcohol the wine might taste worse than plain grape juice.
- nitwit005 1y agoSure, but it's a taste people have spent a couple thousand years working on, and it's remained popular through huge changes in culture and diet. People clearly like it.
- kranner 1y agoSome people, sure, but not all people.
- SwtCyber 1y agoContext and experience shape so much of how we taste things
- chamomeal 1y agoTotally agree. I love beer. I just love it. I would drink beer all day if it didn’t have that damned alcohol in it. I like alcohol too, but not nearly as much as I like beer. Kinda sounds nonsensical, but that’s how I feel!
- ac29 1y ago> Try wine and grape juice side by side. Baring truly awful wine, the wine will taste better The unfermented juice of wine grapes has many similarities to the wine it would produce if fermented. "Grape juice" is usually pretty one note, just sweet.
- voidUpdate 1y agoIf you hate the taste of alcohol (like me), I think the grape juice would taste better
- astura 1y agoI like beer and I think the taste of wine is absolutely vile.
- ljsprague 1y agoThe dose makes the poison.