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> Checks and balances are just words. By that logic, Trump's orders are just words. The Trump administration obeys the courts - they push the envelope way too
by mmooss 1y ago
> Checks and balances are just words.
By that logic, Trump's orders are just words. The Trump administration obeys the courts - they push the envelope way too far, but it is still rule of law.
- threeseed 1y ago> The Trump administration obeys the courts No they don't: https://apnews.com/article/deportation-immigration-south-sudan-department-of-homeland-security-a09612dbd055c5d1d88902c415bdf3e6 https://apnews.com/article/deportation-immigration-south-sud...
- mmooss 1y agoThat is happening, but it's a narrow instance. It doesn't mean there aren't serious issues, but the GGP said, "Checks and balances are just words." Obviously that is not true. Also, Trump is relying on Congress to pass bills, for example. It's not rule by decree.
- alpaca128 1y agoThey deported a man to El Salvador against a court order and then ignored an order from the Supreme Court to return him.
- mmooss 1y agoThat's one person. While it's very important, it doesn't at all mean the courts don't exit. > order from the Supreme Court to return him. The Supreme Court did not order that. Edit: If you object to these things, realize you are helping the Trump administration by spreading exaggerated fears about what's happening. They want people to believe they are super-powerful, unstoppable, inevitable; it intimidates people into inaction. Also, without accurate information, people can't make good decisions and act - you are helping a propaganda campaign (unwittingly). And finally, spreading fear is not what good, responsible leaders - or teammates - do.
- bloomingeek 1y ago[flagged]
- mlyle 1y ago> The Trump administration obeys the courts We have multiple judges beginning contempt proceedings against the administration, so this is open to debate. And, there's recent action in the budget bill to attempt to defang judges' contempt powers, seemingly in response. "No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued"
- cosmicgadget 1y agoWould you consider habeas corpus a critical element of rule of law?
- mmooss 1y agoThere's been loose talk, but no violations of habeas corpus orders.
- cosmicgadget 1y agoHave there been violations of the priciple of habeas corpus?