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Maybe send this question to hn@ycombinator.com with examples of the posts you can't comment on?

by pvg 1y ago

aspenmayer 1y ago
Here’s an example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44065795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44065795 I often email, but this time I opted to have the conversation in public, so that both mods and users could participate and discuss on equal footing.
- pvg 1y ago
  That's a flagged dead post? Those have been closed to new comments as far back as I can remember.
  - aspenmayer 1y ago
    I’m not talking about new top level comments on a [dead] post. Those have always been closed. I’m talking about new replies to live comments on a [dead] post. Those were possible until relatively recently. I don’t remember any notice of this change, or reasoning/justification for such change, which has now clearly occurred.
    - pvg 1y ago
      I haven't noticed this but maybe you can find out by emailing the mods.
      - aspenmayer 1y ago
        I’m sure that I could, and I could faithfully transcribe their reply, and you’d just have to take my word for it. Why would I want to insert myself as an intermediary between the moderators and the community that they moderate?
        pvg 1y ago
        It’s you who’s asking, not the community? Like, insertion already happened - most meta posts aren’t interesting to most people which is why the convention is to address them to the people who can answer them.
        aspenmayer 1y ago
        I’m asking because I noticed the change and was curious if anyone else on HN had noticed. I’m sure that the mods would notice in such a case, so that confirmation or denial would only provide authoritativeness to the answer, and such a valid answer would yet bring us no closer to the truth we seek, which is the awareness and impact of such knowledge on the community. By posing the question as I have, we get the confirmation for free, but by posing it your way, we could bring more heat than light to the discussion through the indirection.
        pvg 1y ago
        Right but there's no 'we' here. You made up the 'we'. The person interested in this is you. It's not even clear the thing you think is happening is happening. You can just ask and if something did happen and you think it's important, you could try telling everyone maybe? Pretty much the premise behind 'mail the mods', no?
        aspenmayer 1y ago
        > Right but there's no 'we' here. You made up the 'we'. The person interested in this is you. It's not even clear the thing you think is happening is happening. You can just ask and if something did happen and you think it's important, you could try telling everyone maybe? Pretty much the premise behind 'mail the mods', no? We're all interested in this by virtue of discussing it. It's clear the thing that happened did happen independently of my beliefs about it. Your comments verge on gaslighting mixed with solipsism and are definitely not steelmanning my points here. I think it's important, or I wouldn't have made my post. Considering your long history on the site, and obvious familiarity with the guidelines, I would consider your argumentative style in this thread to be in bad faith.

Maybe send this question to hn@ycombinator.com with examples of the posts you can't comment on?

by pvg 1y ago

Maybe send this question to hn@ycombinator.com with examples of the posts you can't comment on?

Here’s an example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44065795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44065795 I often email, but this time I opted to have the conversation in public, so that both mods and users could participate and discuss on equal footing.

pvg 1y ago
That's a flagged dead post? Those have been closed to new comments as far back as I can remember.
- aspenmayer 1y ago
  I’m not talking about new top level comments on a [dead] post. Those have always been closed. I’m talking about new replies to live comments on a [dead] post. Those were possible until relatively recently. I don’t remember any notice of this change, or reasoning/justification for such change, which has now clearly occurred.
  - pvg 1y ago
    I haven't noticed this but maybe you can find out by emailing the mods.
    - aspenmayer 1y ago
      I’m sure that I could, and I could faithfully transcribe their reply, and you’d just have to take my word for it. Why would I want to insert myself as an intermediary between the moderators and the community that they moderate?
      - pvg 1y ago
        It’s you who’s asking, not the community? Like, insertion already happened - most meta posts aren’t interesting to most people which is why the convention is to address them to the people who can answer them.
        aspenmayer 1y ago
        I’m asking because I noticed the change and was curious if anyone else on HN had noticed. I’m sure that the mods would notice in such a case, so that confirmation or denial would only provide authoritativeness to the answer, and such a valid answer would yet bring us no closer to the truth we seek, which is the awareness and impact of such knowledge on the community. By posing the question as I have, we get the confirmation for free, but by posing it your way, we could bring more heat than light to the discussion through the indirection.
        pvg 1y ago
        Right but there's no 'we' here. You made up the 'we'. The person interested in this is you. It's not even clear the thing you think is happening is happening. You can just ask and if something did happen and you think it's important, you could try telling everyone maybe? Pretty much the premise behind 'mail the mods', no?
        aspenmayer 1y ago
        > Right but there's no 'we' here. You made up the 'we'. The person interested in this is you. It's not even clear the thing you think is happening is happening. You can just ask and if something did happen and you think it's important, you could try telling everyone maybe? Pretty much the premise behind 'mail the mods', no? We're all interested in this by virtue of discussing it. It's clear the thing that happened did happen independently of my beliefs about it. Your comments verge on gaslighting mixed with solipsism and are definitely not steelmanning my points here. I think it's important, or I wouldn't have made my post. Considering your long history on the site, and obvious familiarity with the guidelines, I would consider your argumentative style in this thread to be in bad faith.