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And they might all be right! > This tech could lead to... I don't think he's saying this is the version that will suddenly trigger a Renaissance. Rather, it's

And they might all be right! > This tech could lead to... I don't think he's saying this is the version that will suddenly trigger a Renaissance. Rather, it's one solid step that makes the path ever more promising. Sure, everyone gets a bit overexcited each release until they find the bounds. But the bounds are expanding, and the need for careful prompt engineering is diminishing. Ever since 3.7, Claude has been a regular part of my process for the mundane. And so far 4.0 seems to take less fighting for me. A good question would be when can AI take a basic prompt, gather its own requirements and build meaningful PRs off basic prompt. I suspect it's still at least a couple of paradigm shifts away. But those seem to be coming every year or faster.

sagarpatil 1y ago
Did you not see the live stream? They took a feature request for excalidraw (table support) and Claude 4 worked on it for 90 minutes and the PR was working as expected. I’m not sure if they were using sonnet or opus.
- andrepd 1y ago
  Pre-prepared demos don't impress me.
  - spiderfarmer 1y ago
    By that logic sport athletes don’t impress you. Movies don’t impress you. Theater doesn’t impress you. Your date won’t impress you. Becoming a parent won’t impress you. Most things in life take years of preparation.
    - xaoz 1y ago
      The issue with preprepared demos is that you can carefully curate the scenario and make choices that you know are likely to show the best outcome, out of a wide range of possibilities. If you know your model (or VC product demo etc) performs poorly under certain conditions, you simply avoid them. This is a reason to be somewhat skeptical about demos.
    - rco8786 1y ago
      No, the logic would be that a football player's 40 time doesn't impress, because you want to see the on field performance. Or a movie trailer doesn't impress, because it's only meant to get you to watch the movie which might be trash. A first date won't impress you, it will take multiple dates to understand and love a human. etc.

sagarpatil 1y ago

Did you not see the live stream? They took a feature request for excalidraw (table support) and Claude 4 worked on it for 90 minutes and the PR was working as expected. I’m not sure if they were using sonnet or opus.

andrepd 1y ago
Pre-prepared demos don't impress me.
- spiderfarmer 1y ago
  By that logic sport athletes don’t impress you. Movies don’t impress you. Theater doesn’t impress you. Your date won’t impress you. Becoming a parent won’t impress you. Most things in life take years of preparation.
  - xaoz 1y ago
    The issue with preprepared demos is that you can carefully curate the scenario and make choices that you know are likely to show the best outcome, out of a wide range of possibilities. If you know your model (or VC product demo etc) performs poorly under certain conditions, you simply avoid them. This is a reason to be somewhat skeptical about demos.
  - rco8786 1y ago
    No, the logic would be that a football player's 40 time doesn't impress, because you want to see the on field performance. Or a movie trailer doesn't impress, because it's only meant to get you to watch the movie which might be trash. A first date won't impress you, it will take multiple dates to understand and love a human. etc.