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If they can do this to Harvard, what hope do other universities have?
by ar813 1y ago
If they can do this to Harvard, what hope do other universities have?
- ModernMech 1y agoYea, that’s the message they are trying to send.
- ty6853 1y agoMost the universities will do the thing asked in order to re-instate their student visa certification. i.e. provide intel needed to deport any students that they believe have opinions that are not in the interest of national security. Most likely Harvard will try to fight it in court and then give in if they lose. It's not likely we see the future decertification continue into the academic year.
- vel0city 1y ago> they believe have opinions that are not in the interest of national security So people committing thought crimes huh? This is the US in 2025 - indefinitely imprisoning people without any actual charges for having opinions the current administration doesn't like.
- TimPC 1y agoThis is the country of free speech zones away from the main event in the early 2000s and sending WWI dissenters to jail in 1914. You’ve long pretended to have freedoms you’ve never actually been given and this is hardly new.
- goatlover 1y agoMore like those freedoms get violated on occasion in the name of national security, because administrations are largely able to get away with it during certain crisis.
- HEmanZ 1y agoThey’re trying to make an example of Harvard so they don’t need to force anyone else to tow the line. Other universities will self censor.
- tehjoker 1y ago[flagged]
- chrisweekly 1y agonit: fyi it's "toe the line"
- ivape 1y agoCan they really do this? You're telling me this is real and not one of those "just for show" things that have no real teeth and will eventually get overturned by a judge?
- adamors 1y agoChecks and balances are just words. So yes, they can and will do everything they want.
- more_corn 1y agoI mean Harvard will fight back in court. The courts are last bastion. Once the executive branch stops following what the courts order the checks and balances are gone.
- dragontamer 1y agoHow is the Supreme Court's 9-0 decision in favor of returning Garcia working out? The courts have been beaten months ago. We are well into crazy train territory.
- ty6853 1y agoLol Rubio told Xinis on national TV he was intentionally stonewalling any information to her, and she took it like a bitch and just kept rolling with keeping most their 'secrets' under seal (despite earlier talking big game of exposing them to sunlight). The courts aren't even trying, they could order someone into contempt, but they won't.
- CamperBob2 1y ago"Ninth Circuit? Never heard of them. How many divisions do they have?"
- bloomingeek 1y agoWe are in a non-constitutional crazy train territory, which will continue unless the right leaning voters do something about it at mid-terms. We're in the beginning of a very dangerous era.
- bloomingeek 1y agoGreat question, right to the heart of the matter. First higher learning, somewhere down the line, ordinary people? In my small world, I'm very clear I'm anti-trump on every issue. As an ordinary person, how long before I get on some Stalin type radar? If trump lobbies for and gets a third term, will there be an awakening to how far the abuse will go?
- archagon 1y agoI expect some government AI will soon be trawling through the databases of every social media network and assembling a political profile of every US resident. (They’re already starting to do this for tourists and visitors: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2479045-us-government-is-using-ai-for-unprecedented-social-media-surveillance https://www.newscientist.com/article/2479045-us-government-i...)
- EasyMark 1y agodictators always start with the groups they hate most and then move down the list. Trump has always hated elite universities and academia.
- vjvjvjvjghv 1y agoSeems most universities don't really care as long as the money keeps flowing. They jumped quickly on the DEI bandwagon and they will quickly hop off too.
- SoftTalker 1y agoMany already have.
- ihsw 1y ago[dead]