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> Who will you trust? Your-self-hosted?

reaperducer 1y ago
Your-self-hosted? Only if you're among the .0001% of people who can code it yourself. Otherwise, nothing is different; you're always relying on someone else for their software, feature, security, and compatibility updates.
- walterbell 1y ago
  Are we on Hacker News?
  - 4ndrewl 1y ago
    Yeah, bit weird - surely the population of HN is either going to be - people who _can_ code it themselves, or - people who believe they can get AI to code it for them
    - doubled112 1y ago
      I'm in a third group: people who can decide if somebody else's code is "good enough" to host it themselves
      - 4ndrewl 1y ago
        For my definition of code in this context you're in the first group, as you're doubtless going to have to modify some Dockerfile/.env/config.yaml to point the flapdoodle_cache setting to /usr/local/.this/fnar
- homebrewer 1y ago
  I'm self-hosting a couple of services that stopped receiving updates (including security updates) about 10 years ago. They still serve my needs perfectly well. They're hidden behind HTTP authentication (with HTTPS) so the internet noise ("AI" shit, web scrapers, shodan, script kiddies) doesn't even know they exist.
- jauntywundrkind 1y ago
  It's a pity Sandstorm never super took off. Portable serverless with really nice security built in meant really easy to deploy apps; app server just for you or for a group of people was so nice & easy. I really hope we someday have self-hosting that isn't as intimidating, that isn't a million different systems all complex in their own way, where there's a base platform with base assumptions and base tools, that let's us manage our self-hosted apps & their data.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  Code? For self-hosting? I hope not. Most programmers shouldn’t be programming internet-facing stuff. (FWIW I include myself in “most programmers”). Get it from your repository. In that case you are trusting somebody like Debian or Redhat. They’ve earned an awful lot of trust.

Your-self-hosted? Only if you're among the .0001% of people who can code it yourself. Otherwise, nothing is different; you're always relying on someone else for their software, feature, security, and compatibility updates.

walterbell 1y ago
Are we on Hacker News?
- 4ndrewl 1y ago
  Yeah, bit weird - surely the population of HN is either going to be - people who _can_ code it themselves, or - people who believe they can get AI to code it for them
  - doubled112 1y ago
    I'm in a third group: people who can decide if somebody else's code is "good enough" to host it themselves
    - 4ndrewl 1y ago
      For my definition of code in this context you're in the first group, as you're doubtless going to have to modify some Dockerfile/.env/config.yaml to point the flapdoodle_cache setting to /usr/local/.this/fnar
homebrewer 1y ago
I'm self-hosting a couple of services that stopped receiving updates (including security updates) about 10 years ago. They still serve my needs perfectly well. They're hidden behind HTTP authentication (with HTTPS) so the internet noise ("AI" shit, web scrapers, shodan, script kiddies) doesn't even know they exist.
jauntywundrkind 1y ago
It's a pity Sandstorm never super took off. Portable serverless with really nice security built in meant really easy to deploy apps; app server just for you or for a group of people was so nice & easy. I really hope we someday have self-hosting that isn't as intimidating, that isn't a million different systems all complex in their own way, where there's a base platform with base assumptions and base tools, that let's us manage our self-hosted apps & their data.
bee_rider 1y ago
Code? For self-hosting? I hope not. Most programmers shouldn’t be programming internet-facing stuff. (FWIW I include myself in “most programmers”). Get it from your repository. In that case you are trusting somebody like Debian or Redhat. They’ve earned an awful lot of trust.