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Growing up in a strong Southern Christian / Baptist / Pentecostal household [1], WorldCoin feels like the most "Mark of the Beast" plot I've ever seen. 1990's t

Growing up in a strong Southern Christian / Baptist / Pentecostal household [1], WorldCoin feels like the most "Mark of the Beast" plot I've ever seen. 1990's televangelists like John Hagee and Pat Robertson would be screaming to high heaven about Sam Altman being the antichrist if they were still around. Transacting with your eyeball? Directly out of the Book of Revelations! [1] I took a strong interest in biochemistry in college and I'm no longer religious.

AStonesThrow 1y ago
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- travem 1y ago
  > It's also a hoot to just see LDS missionaries waiving their iPhones around with the Genesis Apple clearly visible. To be fair, the LDS doctrine around the fruit from the Garden of Eden and the fall is quite different from the Catholic understanding, it’s seen as a necessary, even a good thing, in the overall plan.
  - AStonesThrow 1y ago
    > quite different from the Catholic understanding Oh? And what do you believe is the Catholic understanding? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa https://www.usccb.org/prayer-worship/liturgical-year/easter/easter-proclamation-exsultet https://www.usccb.org/prayer-worship/liturgical-year/easter/... O truly necessary sin of Adam, destroyed completely by the Death of Christ! O happy fault that earned so great, so glorious a Redeemer! To be honest, I would say that these signs placed by Apple Computer were done not out of malice, but by way of warning. To say, "Here Be Dragons!" To counsel those who may be ignorant, there are pitfalls ahead, and be careful, because you could lose your soul to these things, even though they are designed as morally neutral. Computers are a tool, after all. The fruit depicted could just as easily be from the Tree of Life. It's all about how we use those tools.
    - jazzyjackson 1y ago
      Could also just be to show up first in the yellow pages Also tools are not neutral, they carry the intent of their designer and make whatever they are designed to do easier than it used to be; if you want to be convinced please read Douglas Rushkoff's Program or Be Programmed: Ten Commands for a Digital Age
    - twodave 1y ago
      I would argue that it’s likely there was no Biblical reference intended, but that even if it was, it’s then more likely the apple is a reference to “knowledge” (as in, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil) than a vague warning about using their products.
mgiampapa 1y ago
Signing posts with a hash tied to a thing that might prove you are human instead of a LLM astroturfing might actually be a good value proposition for blockchain.
- 52-6F-62 1y ago
  My body does that for me…
  - mgiampapa 1y ago
    Nope, this is the internet. I know you are a cat in a tube. The internet is full of them, like dump trucks.
    - 52-6F-62 1y ago
      HN is dead
      - GeoAtreides 1y ago
        september is the cruelest month
        Henchman21 1y ago
        It’s so much longer than the other months!
- ssabev 1y ago
  Came here to agree. Initially I thought it's a bloody stupid idea, however at this stage I reckon we need it or a lot of boomers are going to be ones hotted into singing away all their wealth away.
  - Henchman21 1y ago
    Aaah, now you see the plan clearly.
subsaharancoder 1y ago
John Hagee is very much alive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee
- echelon 1y ago
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hn_acc1 1y ago
I mean, on the one hand, sure, but on the other hand - the "anointed one" himself, DJT, is pushing AI, so I'm sure it will be fine. Unlike that heathen Joe Biden who attends more church services in a month than DJT in a year. And as I eventually learned (grew up similar to yourself, but german pentecostal in canada, also exvangelical now), if they are against helping people and against welfare/basic human rights/basic income/equality, they're truly christians in the eyes of those telegelicals. I guess somehow the "you will always have the poor among you, me you will not always have" quote from Jesus means that to be "a biblical nation", we have to ensure there are always poor people..
jazzyjackson 1y ago
Also a plot point in Arnold Schwarzenegger's The Sixth Day, where his eyeballs get scanned as a matter of course before transporting a VIP, (sign here, eyeballs here please, thank you) and later used to clone him.
cjohnson318 1y ago
Yeah same here. My dad has been talking about the End Times and the Mark of the Beast for 40 years now. Now, in addition to all that, it's Q-ANON and MAGA. Fun times. Liberal police are coming for your guns and your Bible, you heard it here first.

AStonesThrow 1y ago

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travem 1y ago
> It's also a hoot to just see LDS missionaries waiving their iPhones around with the Genesis Apple clearly visible. To be fair, the LDS doctrine around the fruit from the Garden of Eden and the fall is quite different from the Catholic understanding, it’s seen as a necessary, even a good thing, in the overall plan.
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  > quite different from the Catholic understanding Oh? And what do you believe is the Catholic understanding? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa https://www.usccb.org/prayer-worship/liturgical-year/easter/easter-proclamation-exsultet https://www.usccb.org/prayer-worship/liturgical-year/easter/... O truly necessary sin of Adam, destroyed completely by the Death of Christ! O happy fault that earned so great, so glorious a Redeemer! To be honest, I would say that these signs placed by Apple Computer were done not out of malice, but by way of warning. To say, "Here Be Dragons!" To counsel those who may be ignorant, there are pitfalls ahead, and be careful, because you could lose your soul to these things, even though they are designed as morally neutral. Computers are a tool, after all. The fruit depicted could just as easily be from the Tree of Life. It's all about how we use those tools.
  - jazzyjackson 1y ago
    Could also just be to show up first in the yellow pages Also tools are not neutral, they carry the intent of their designer and make whatever they are designed to do easier than it used to be; if you want to be convinced please read Douglas Rushkoff's Program or Be Programmed: Ten Commands for a Digital Age
  - twodave 1y ago
    I would argue that it’s likely there was no Biblical reference intended, but that even if it was, it’s then more likely the apple is a reference to “knowledge” (as in, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil) than a vague warning about using their products.

mgiampapa 1y ago

Signing posts with a hash tied to a thing that might prove you are human instead of a LLM astroturfing might actually be a good value proposition for blockchain.

52-6F-62 1y ago
My body does that for me…
- mgiampapa 1y ago
  Nope, this is the internet. I know you are a cat in a tube. The internet is full of them, like dump trucks.
  - 52-6F-62 1y ago
    HN is dead
    - GeoAtreides 1y ago
      september is the cruelest month
      - Henchman21 1y ago
        It’s so much longer than the other months!
ssabev 1y ago
Came here to agree. Initially I thought it's a bloody stupid idea, however at this stage I reckon we need it or a lot of boomers are going to be ones hotted into singing away all their wealth away.
- Henchman21 1y ago
  Aaah, now you see the plan clearly.

subsaharancoder 1y ago

John Hagee is very much alive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee

echelon 1y ago
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hn_acc1 1y ago

I mean, on the one hand, sure, but on the other hand - the "anointed one" himself, DJT, is pushing AI, so I'm sure it will be fine. Unlike that heathen Joe Biden who attends more church services in a month than DJT in a year. And as I eventually learned (grew up similar to yourself, but german pentecostal in canada, also exvangelical now), if they are against helping people and against welfare/basic human rights/basic income/equality, they're truly christians in the eyes of those telegelicals. I guess somehow the "you will always have the poor among you, me you will not always have" quote from Jesus means that to be "a biblical nation", we have to ensure there are always poor people..

jazzyjackson 1y ago

Also a plot point in Arnold Schwarzenegger's The Sixth Day, where his eyeballs get scanned as a matter of course before transporting a VIP, (sign here, eyeballs here please, thank you) and later used to clone him.

cjohnson318 1y ago

Yeah same here. My dad has been talking about the End Times and the Mark of the Beast for 40 years now. Now, in addition to all that, it's Q-ANON and MAGA. Fun times. Liberal police are coming for your guns and your Bible, you heard it here first.