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Do you really think your friends are qualified to have the opinion that these restrictions are 'questionably justifiable'? We are talking about the long-term h

Do you really think your friends are qualified to have the opinion that these restrictions are 'questionably justifiable'? We are talking about the long-term health/environmental effects of millions of vehicles after all, maybe they were part of science teams doing research on the topic? I mean, a mechanical engineer doing back-of-the-envelope calculations is better than some uncle on Facebook, but still...

colechristensen 1y ago
Do you think vaguely appealing to authority is a convincing argument?
- phoronixrly 1y ago
  Was just questioning the appeal to authority of OP. Also was genuinely interested whether people are so arrogant. Tbh I don't know what I expected, especially since I've already seen the responses on this site to suggesting one consults a doctor instead of self-medicating...
wyager 1y ago
> Do you really think your friends are qualified to have the opinion Yes... most of the friends in question (MechEs, as I mentioned) work in power generation, petroleum engineering, etc. Not sure what your friend group looks like. > We are talking about the long-term health/environmental effects of millions of vehicles after all, If you're going to act like you're doing some kind of utilitarian calculation, you're going to need to do a more convincing job of recognizing this as a tradeoff space rather than seethingly appealing to "science teams"
- phoronixrly 1y ago
  And you genuinely don't see how they can be incompetent to have an opinion on the long-term medical/environmental effects of deleting EGR for example? You also don't see how on top of that they might be biased?
  - wyager 1y ago
    Do the "science teams" you're imagining happen to be world-class experts in power generation and particulate medicine and ecology? My friends are more generally competent (and less harmfully biased) than the modal person writing emissions policy, yes.

colechristensen 1y ago

Do you think vaguely appealing to authority is a convincing argument?

phoronixrly 1y ago
Was just questioning the appeal to authority of OP. Also was genuinely interested whether people are so arrogant. Tbh I don't know what I expected, especially since I've already seen the responses on this site to suggesting one consults a doctor instead of self-medicating...

wyager 1y ago

> Do you really think your friends are qualified to have the opinion Yes... most of the friends in question (MechEs, as I mentioned) work in power generation, petroleum engineering, etc. Not sure what your friend group looks like. > We are talking about the long-term health/environmental effects of millions of vehicles after all, If you're going to act like you're doing some kind of utilitarian calculation, you're going to need to do a more convincing job of recognizing this as a tradeoff space rather than seethingly appealing to "science teams"

phoronixrly 1y ago
And you genuinely don't see how they can be incompetent to have an opinion on the long-term medical/environmental effects of deleting EGR for example? You also don't see how on top of that they might be biased?
- wyager 1y ago
  Do the "science teams" you're imagining happen to be world-class experts in power generation and particulate medicine and ecology? My friends are more generally competent (and less harmfully biased) than the modal person writing emissions policy, yes.