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The organizations/nation states/whatever who astroturf on reddit disagree with you. It definitely matters in shaping opinions. It's not as influential as tiktok

The organizations/nation states/whatever who astroturf on reddit disagree with you. It definitely matters in shaping opinions. It's not as influential as tiktok of course, but that doesn't mean it's not influential.

thunkingdeep 1y ago
By that measure, the benches on my local sidewalks are of cultural importance. You can spew ads and shit wherever they’ll let you, doesn’t enrich the environment by default. I get what you mean, but I’m still unconvinced of Reddit as a meaningful platform.
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- portaouflop 1y ago
  what happens on the street is obviously of cultural importance
  - thunkingdeep 1y ago
    Yeah? I saw a homeless guy shit into the storm drain the other day. I’ll send you the picture… since it’s so culturally important
impossiblefork 1y ago
For mass shaping tiktok is probably more effective, but Reddit probably shapes people more deeply, since there's actual discussion. I think people are more critical in this discussion though, so that an apparent consensus may be interpreted by the user as the thread being bot-infested rather than there being a consensus. Thus it may be harder to get a result there, and the really interesting people that you may want to affect might actually be immune because they approach the medium as critically as it should be.
- LtWorf 1y ago
  On reddit opposing point of views get instabanned. The discussion is just between people who already agree.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    *on/from particular subreddits
  - impossiblefork 1y ago
    Only in places like /r/worldnews.
    - LtWorf 1y ago
      Also r/sverige r/sweden r/italy are very one sided. The right wing governments of those countries are finally now having some useless words about israel, but it will take a long time before the mods adapt.
      - impossiblefork 1y ago
        /r/Sverige is absolutely astroturfed, but if you ignore the obvious astroturfers you can have real discussion there, because you won't be banned. /r/Sweden bans people, but is less astroturfed and you can still have real discussion there, except when the drug-liberals (for Americans speakers, think drug-libertarians) and other goons come out of their hiding holes. I don't think either subreddit cares about Israel stuff at all, and they certainly don't care about what any Swedish government thinks. In both, everyone gets to have their say, whether he's Israeli public diplomacy or Qatari public diplomacy, although bots will of course downvote, and Reddit itself will sometimes remove comments.

thunkingdeep 1y ago

By that measure, the benches on my local sidewalks are of cultural importance. You can spew ads and shit wherever they’ll let you, doesn’t enrich the environment by default. I get what you mean, but I’m still unconvinced of Reddit as a meaningful platform.

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portaouflop 1y ago
what happens on the street is obviously of cultural importance
- thunkingdeep 1y ago
  Yeah? I saw a homeless guy shit into the storm drain the other day. I’ll send you the picture… since it’s so culturally important

impossiblefork 1y ago

For mass shaping tiktok is probably more effective, but Reddit probably shapes people more deeply, since there's actual discussion. I think people are more critical in this discussion though, so that an apparent consensus may be interpreted by the user as the thread being bot-infested rather than there being a consensus. Thus it may be harder to get a result there, and the really interesting people that you may want to affect might actually be immune because they approach the medium as critically as it should be.

LtWorf 1y ago
On reddit opposing point of views get instabanned. The discussion is just between people who already agree.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  *on/from particular subreddits
- impossiblefork 1y ago
  Only in places like /r/worldnews.
  - LtWorf 1y ago
    Also r/sverige r/sweden r/italy are very one sided. The right wing governments of those countries are finally now having some useless words about israel, but it will take a long time before the mods adapt.
    - impossiblefork 1y ago
      /r/Sverige is absolutely astroturfed, but if you ignore the obvious astroturfers you can have real discussion there, because you won't be banned. /r/Sweden bans people, but is less astroturfed and you can still have real discussion there, except when the drug-liberals (for Americans speakers, think drug-libertarians) and other goons come out of their hiding holes. I don't think either subreddit cares about Israel stuff at all, and they certainly don't care about what any Swedish government thinks. In both, everyone gets to have their say, whether he's Israeli public diplomacy or Qatari public diplomacy, although bots will of course downvote, and Reddit itself will sometimes remove comments.