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> In the interview, Altman said Jobs would be “damn proud” of Ive’s latest move. What an extremely weird (and egotistical) thing to say if you're in Altman's p

by samtp 1y ago

> In the interview, Altman said Jobs would be “damn proud” of Ive’s latest move. What an extremely weird (and egotistical) thing to say if you're in Altman's position

brador 1y ago
It’s a trophy acqui-hire. Something to brag about over dinner and to investors.
- dowager_dan99 1y ago
  so Altman's nerd-equivalent of a sexual conquest?
  - tmpz22 1y ago
    Oh there's a lot of sex cults in the SV investor sphere I assure you. Those "conquests" are happening too. Ask young women who have spent sufficient time and had exposure to the space.
    - lysace 1y ago
      This v2 Sorkin movie is way overdue. "The Social Network" (2010) seems so innocent now.
DevKoala 1y ago
While Sam is being egotistic, the reverence of Jobs to the point nobody is even allowed to assume how he would have thought is also weird imho.
- samtp 1y ago
  I'm certainly not saying that "nobody is even allowed to assume how he would have thought". What I'm saying actually has very little to do with Jobs at all. I'm saying that as a new partner to someone, it's extremely weird to say that your old dead partner would be extremely proud you teamed up with me. If I were to marry a woman who lost her husband, it would be extremely weird and egotistical for me to tell people that her dead ex-husband would be "damn proud" that she married me.
  - therein 1y ago
    > If I were to marry a woman who lost her husband, it would be extremely weird and egotistical for me to tell people that her dead ex-husband would be "damn proud" that she married me. Perfect example. That is exactly what it feels like. What a nasty thing for him to even think, and he goes and says it publicly.
- mrbungie 1y ago
  If Ive had said that himself, it wouldn't be weird. But Sama didn't know Jobs well enough to put words in his mouth.
mrbungie 1y ago
Narcissistic ego stroking. He literally is invoking and thinking out loud for a dead man, who was not that intimate with him, just to validate his own ventures and acquihires. Very weird. It wouldn't be that weird if Ive had said so himself.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  > It wouldn't be that weird if Ive had said so himself. It would still be marketing, though.
  - mrbungie 1y ago
    Sure, but at least it would've been tethered to someone who actually knew him. Remove that and any humanity in the quote banishes.
inerte 1y ago
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And Ive and Sama were the sixth day.
nashashmi 1y ago
… Unless he engineered the entire deal himself and wanted to make it seem like it was Ive’s greatest maneuver.
- samtp 1y ago
  If Ive has the social intelligence of a child, I guess that's plausible.

by samtp 1y ago

> In the interview, Altman said Jobs would be “damn proud” of Ive’s latest move. What an extremely weird (and egotistical) thing to say if you're in Altman's position

brador 1y ago

It’s a trophy acqui-hire. Something to brag about over dinner and to investors.

dowager_dan99 1y ago
so Altman's nerd-equivalent of a sexual conquest?
- tmpz22 1y ago
  Oh there's a lot of sex cults in the SV investor sphere I assure you. Those "conquests" are happening too. Ask young women who have spent sufficient time and had exposure to the space.
  - lysace 1y ago
    This v2 Sorkin movie is way overdue. "The Social Network" (2010) seems so innocent now.

DevKoala 1y ago

While Sam is being egotistic, the reverence of Jobs to the point nobody is even allowed to assume how he would have thought is also weird imho.

samtp 1y ago
I'm certainly not saying that "nobody is even allowed to assume how he would have thought". What I'm saying actually has very little to do with Jobs at all. I'm saying that as a new partner to someone, it's extremely weird to say that your old dead partner would be extremely proud you teamed up with me. If I were to marry a woman who lost her husband, it would be extremely weird and egotistical for me to tell people that her dead ex-husband would be "damn proud" that she married me.
- therein 1y ago
  > If I were to marry a woman who lost her husband, it would be extremely weird and egotistical for me to tell people that her dead ex-husband would be "damn proud" that she married me. Perfect example. That is exactly what it feels like. What a nasty thing for him to even think, and he goes and says it publicly.
mrbungie 1y ago
If Ive had said that himself, it wouldn't be weird. But Sama didn't know Jobs well enough to put words in his mouth.

mrbungie 1y ago

Narcissistic ego stroking. He literally is invoking and thinking out loud for a dead man, who was not that intimate with him, just to validate his own ventures and acquihires. Very weird. It wouldn't be that weird if Ive had said so himself.

bigyabai 1y ago
> It wouldn't be that weird if Ive had said so himself. It would still be marketing, though.
- mrbungie 1y ago
  Sure, but at least it would've been tethered to someone who actually knew him. Remove that and any humanity in the quote banishes.

inerte 1y ago

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And Ive and Sama were the sixth day.

nashashmi 1y ago

… Unless he engineered the entire deal himself and wanted to make it seem like it was Ive’s greatest maneuver.

samtp 1y ago
If Ive has the social intelligence of a child, I guess that's plausible.