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Believe me, the common man doesn't need the ultrawealthy to dislike arbitrary cost increases. Carbon taxes are incredibly unpopular. As is common sense and/or

by lynx97 1y ago

Believe me, the common man doesn't need the ultrawealthy to dislike arbitrary cost increases. Carbon taxes are incredibly unpopular. As is common sense and/or planning for a future 20 years ahead. Humans are, on average, selfish beings. All this climate change activism is NOT the norm, and does NOT resonate with most common people. Talk to some outside of your activist bubble, and you will learn a thing or two about humans.

triceratops 1y ago
> dislike arbitrary cost increases Please see my comment again. Under a revenue-neutral carbon tax everyone gets money back. But they don't realize it. Costs only go up for people who emit more carbon than average. Exhibit A: Canada's recent repudiation of their carbon tax because nobody knew they were getting rebates. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-tax-rebate-rebrand-1.7115300 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-tax-rebate-rebrand-1... > Talk to some outside of your activist bubble That's quite condescending btw. Is it "activism" to try to avert a calamity that will increase the cost of living by a lot more 20 years from now? I think it's good fiscal sense. Long-term thinking and planning. Y'know adult shit. > Humans are, on average, selfish beings And easily swayed by stupid arguments. Exhibit B: Canada's recent repudiation of the carbon tax because fossil fuel industry propaganda convinced everyone that the tax was the cause of price increases. Now prices will stay the same (because the market will bear them) but no one will get any rebate money.
rcpt 1y ago
Sales taxes are hugely popular and nobody gets a check in the mail from that
- triceratops 1y ago
  I don't know if you can call any tax "hugely popular". They're at best "grudgingly tolerated".
  - rcpt 1y ago
    Sure they're not popular like Beyonce is but look at the map https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_St... Those were all voted in. It's a type of tax that people are happy with for whatever reason.

by lynx97 1y ago

triceratops 1y ago

> dislike arbitrary cost increases Please see my comment again. Under a revenue-neutral carbon tax everyone gets money back. But they don't realize it. Costs only go up for people who emit more carbon than average. Exhibit A: Canada's recent repudiation of their carbon tax because nobody knew they were getting rebates. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-tax-rebate-rebrand-1.7115300 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carbon-tax-rebate-rebrand-1... > Talk to some outside of your activist bubble That's quite condescending btw. Is it "activism" to try to avert a calamity that will increase the cost of living by a lot more 20 years from now? I think it's good fiscal sense. Long-term thinking and planning. Y'know adult shit. > Humans are, on average, selfish beings And easily swayed by stupid arguments. Exhibit B: Canada's recent repudiation of the carbon tax because fossil fuel industry propaganda convinced everyone that the tax was the cause of price increases. Now prices will stay the same (because the market will bear them) but no one will get any rebate money.

rcpt 1y ago

Sales taxes are hugely popular and nobody gets a check in the mail from that

triceratops 1y ago
I don't know if you can call any tax "hugely popular". They're at best "grudgingly tolerated".
- rcpt 1y ago
  Sure they're not popular like Beyonce is but look at the map https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_St... Those were all voted in. It's a type of tax that people are happy with for whatever reason.