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Sorry I wasn't clear, it's not a hypothesis, we have based our technology on over a decade and 50+ papers of peer-reviewed published research, and our tech is c

Sorry I wasn't clear, it's not a hypothesis, we have based our technology on over a decade and 50+ papers of peer-reviewed published research, and our tech is currently being used in clinical trials. We link to some of the research on our website, though there is lots more, I'll be redoing the website prior to opening pre-sales, and providing more of the research links there. When I said "I don't have the solution yet", I meant, we are not for sale in the market yet, so I don't have anything that can help you today. If you're suggesting "lifestyle issues" are things like, "I've got young children, and the demands of parenthood disrupt my sleep", or "I'm over 40 and my sleep quality just isn't what it used to be", then yes, this is where our capabilities shine. There is currently an issue with our capabilities in the shift-work population, but we may be able to address that prior to launch. I like to consider these "sleep issues related to lifestyle", than "lifestyle issues". Is that the sort of thing you were thinking of? One of the reasons we need to speak of "restorative function" rather than "sleep quality" is that in sleep medicine they refer to sleep quality based on time metrics. On the sleep hygiene side of things, I don't want to suggest that sleep hygiene isn't important. I used to hate it and think it was over-stated, and I think it is, when you talk about restorative function. However, if you can't get to sleep, you don't have the opportunity for restorative function. Sleep hygiene is the bus that takes you to the gym, it's not the workout.

Nevermark 1y ago
On the linked page and here you are very wordy about existing advice not being the right way to think about things. You could use far fewer words by just explaining what you know and are doing explicitly instead of obliquely. People don’t need to “think differently”, they just need to know what you are doing and why in non-abstract terms. I don’t know if this is a writing habit issue or a staged reveal issue, but I suggest just being direct. > Sleep hygiene is the bus that takes you to the gym, it's not the workout. What am I supposed to do with stuff like this? Nobody would disagree. All the abstract and indirect communication isn’t necessary. It’s just fluff. (IMHO) However, like millions of other, I am very glad to hear of any activity like yours to find other ways to address sleep issues. I wish you great success.
- al_borland 1y ago
  Exactly. This is what I’m looking for. The way it’s being talked about right now, I’m preparing for the sleep equivalent of a magnetic bracelet, or a 5G blocking amulet.
  - pedalpete 1y ago
    Ouch! But I appreciate the feedback, as I just stated in another comment. If you look on our website, we describe the process of increasing the synchronous firing of neurons which are the defining feature of deep sleep and the foundation of health. Unfortunately, we thought we'd have FDA regulatory approvals prior to launch, but we won't, which means we can't legally point to any specific biomarkers or physiological processes. It's a bit of a strange rule, because if the person was conscious while we provided the stimulation, we can say whatever we want, but because they are unconscious, we have to kinda dance around it. I'm still working on how we can clearly say what we do, while staying within the regulatory limitations. It's a big part of why I'm putting stuff like this out now. Your feedback has been really helpful, and I appreciate it.
    - al_borland 1y ago
      Sorry. I hope you can understand the skepticism. There are a lot of people in the health space just looking to make a quick buck, so my BS meter is always on high (as are many others). This is something you’ll need to contend with at launch. I’m not saying this is you, but extraordinary claims will always meet resistance, especially if it doesn’t seem like something is being hidden. I just took a look at more of the site. I’m not sure if changes were made based on feedback, or if the site has remained the same, but it mentions tones being used to single the brain to adjust. This was what I was looking for, but you seemed to dance around it in the comments (or maybe I somehow missed it in the blog post and comments?). If you can mention it on the website, I’m assuming it’s not part of the FDA restriction. Having learned that, I’d have a follow up question. I sleep with a white noise machine. Others may live in a city with street noise at all hours of the night. Will something like a white noise machine, or street noise, mask (or interfere with) the tones the headband is making, or dampen the impact it has? I wouldn’t want to give the white noise up, as it has helped me a lot, especially in unfamiliar environments. It gives my brain something neutral to focus on while trying to fall asleep, instead of activating at every little house or street noise that might be going on. One of my biggest issues is going to bed and then falling asleep. If I fail to do that effectively, I wouldn’t even get to the part where the headband could do its thing. If it takes longer to fall asleep using this, does the effectiveness mean a person can feel as rested, with similar performance (memory, etc) on less sleep? The blog stressed how time sleeping is the wrong metric, but would this cut the amount of sleep a person needs, or would they still sleep for a similar duration, just with better quality? I don’t think sleep duration can be thrown out, as people need to organize their life around sleep.

Nevermark 1y ago

On the linked page and here you are very wordy about existing advice not being the right way to think about things. You could use far fewer words by just explaining what you know and are doing explicitly instead of obliquely. People don’t need to “think differently”, they just need to know what you are doing and why in non-abstract terms. I don’t know if this is a writing habit issue or a staged reveal issue, but I suggest just being direct. > Sleep hygiene is the bus that takes you to the gym, it's not the workout. What am I supposed to do with stuff like this? Nobody would disagree. All the abstract and indirect communication isn’t necessary. It’s just fluff. (IMHO) However, like millions of other, I am very glad to hear of any activity like yours to find other ways to address sleep issues. I wish you great success.

al_borland 1y ago
Exactly. This is what I’m looking for. The way it’s being talked about right now, I’m preparing for the sleep equivalent of a magnetic bracelet, or a 5G blocking amulet.
- pedalpete 1y ago
  Ouch! But I appreciate the feedback, as I just stated in another comment. If you look on our website, we describe the process of increasing the synchronous firing of neurons which are the defining feature of deep sleep and the foundation of health. Unfortunately, we thought we'd have FDA regulatory approvals prior to launch, but we won't, which means we can't legally point to any specific biomarkers or physiological processes. It's a bit of a strange rule, because if the person was conscious while we provided the stimulation, we can say whatever we want, but because they are unconscious, we have to kinda dance around it. I'm still working on how we can clearly say what we do, while staying within the regulatory limitations. It's a big part of why I'm putting stuff like this out now. Your feedback has been really helpful, and I appreciate it.
  - al_borland 1y ago
    Sorry. I hope you can understand the skepticism. There are a lot of people in the health space just looking to make a quick buck, so my BS meter is always on high (as are many others). This is something you’ll need to contend with at launch. I’m not saying this is you, but extraordinary claims will always meet resistance, especially if it doesn’t seem like something is being hidden. I just took a look at more of the site. I’m not sure if changes were made based on feedback, or if the site has remained the same, but it mentions tones being used to single the brain to adjust. This was what I was looking for, but you seemed to dance around it in the comments (or maybe I somehow missed it in the blog post and comments?). If you can mention it on the website, I’m assuming it’s not part of the FDA restriction. Having learned that, I’d have a follow up question. I sleep with a white noise machine. Others may live in a city with street noise at all hours of the night. Will something like a white noise machine, or street noise, mask (or interfere with) the tones the headband is making, or dampen the impact it has? I wouldn’t want to give the white noise up, as it has helped me a lot, especially in unfamiliar environments. It gives my brain something neutral to focus on while trying to fall asleep, instead of activating at every little house or street noise that might be going on. One of my biggest issues is going to bed and then falling asleep. If I fail to do that effectively, I wouldn’t even get to the part where the headband could do its thing. If it takes longer to fall asleep using this, does the effectiveness mean a person can feel as rested, with similar performance (memory, etc) on less sleep? The blog stressed how time sleeping is the wrong metric, but would this cut the amount of sleep a person needs, or would they still sleep for a similar duration, just with better quality? I don’t think sleep duration can be thrown out, as people need to organize their life around sleep.