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Even if the content was 100% AI generated (which is the furthest thing from reality today) human engagement with the content is a powerful signal that can be us

Even if the content was 100% AI generated (which is the furthest thing from reality today) human engagement with the content is a powerful signal that can be used by AI to learn. It would be like RLHF with free human annotation at scale.

dom96 1y ago
Won't the human engagement be replaced by AI engagement too? if it isn't already being replaced?
- thomashop 1y ago
  The AI is not paying for watching videos yet
  - DrScientist 1y ago
    Indeed, it's the advertisers who are paying for AI to watch videos....
    - ben_w 1y ago
      And paying for my sofa to watch a unskippable 50s ad while I make a coffee.
      - mr_toad 1y ago
        Back in the day when everyone used to watch broadcast TV, and stations synchronised their add breaks, water consumption would spike with every add break.
        jdietrich 1y ago
        The UK has a unique problem with demand spikes for electricity during commercial breaks, due to the British penchant for using high-power electric kettles to make tea. In the worst case, demand could rise and fall by gigawatts within a matter of minutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDAvewWfrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDAvewWfrA
    - bbor 1y ago
      Google already invests a tremendous amount of resources into identifying and preventing fraudulent ad impressions -- I don't see that changing much until AI is so cheap that it makes sense to run a full agent for pennies per hour. Sadly.
      - DrScientist 1y ago
        Not talking about fraud per se - in the sense of trying to drive revenue for a particular video channel - just that if you wanted to train AI on youtube videos you are in effect getting the advertisers to pay for the serving of them. Perhaps the difference here is the behaviour would be much more human and thus harder to detect using current fraud detection?
- artursapek 1y ago
  Yes it will. Soon humans will be the minority on the internet. I wrote some guesses about this 2 years ago: https://art.cx/blog/12-08-22-city-of-bots https://art.cx/blog/12-08-22-city-of-bots

dom96 1y ago

Won't the human engagement be replaced by AI engagement too? if it isn't already being replaced?

thomashop 1y ago
The AI is not paying for watching videos yet
- DrScientist 1y ago
  Indeed, it's the advertisers who are paying for AI to watch videos....
  - ben_w 1y ago
    And paying for my sofa to watch a unskippable 50s ad while I make a coffee.
    - mr_toad 1y ago
      Back in the day when everyone used to watch broadcast TV, and stations synchronised their add breaks, water consumption would spike with every add break.
      - jdietrich 1y ago
        The UK has a unique problem with demand spikes for electricity during commercial breaks, due to the British penchant for using high-power electric kettles to make tea. In the worst case, demand could rise and fall by gigawatts within a matter of minutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDAvewWfrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDAvewWfrA
  - bbor 1y ago
    Google already invests a tremendous amount of resources into identifying and preventing fraudulent ad impressions -- I don't see that changing much until AI is so cheap that it makes sense to run a full agent for pennies per hour. Sadly.
    - DrScientist 1y ago
      Not talking about fraud per se - in the sense of trying to drive revenue for a particular video channel - just that if you wanted to train AI on youtube videos you are in effect getting the advertisers to pay for the serving of them. Perhaps the difference here is the behaviour would be much more human and thus harder to detect using current fraud detection?
artursapek 1y ago
Yes it will. Soon humans will be the minority on the internet. I wrote some guesses about this 2 years ago: https://art.cx/blog/12-08-22-city-of-bots https://art.cx/blog/12-08-22-city-of-bots