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Google Flow is remarkable as video editing UX, but Imagen 4 doesn't really stand out amongst its image gen peers. I want to interrupt all of this hype over Ima

Google Flow is remarkable as video editing UX, but Imagen 4 doesn't really stand out amongst its image gen peers. I want to interrupt all of this hype over Imagen 4 to talk about the totally slept on Tencent Hunyuan Image 2.0 that stealthily launched last Friday. It's absolutely remarkable and features: - millisecond generation times - real time image-to-image drawing capabilities - visual instructivity (eg. you can circle regions, draw arrows, and write prompts addressing them.) - incredible prompt adherence and quality Nothing else on the market has these properties in quite this combination, so it's rather unique. Release Tweet: https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1923263203825549457 https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1923263203825549457 Tencent Hunyuan had a bunch of model releases all wrapped up in a product that they call "Hunyuan Game", but the Hunyuan Image 2.0 real time drawing canvas is the real star of it all. It's basically a faster, higher quality Krea: https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1924713242150273424 https://x.com/TencentHunyuan/status/1924713242150273424 More real time canvas samples: https://youtu.be/tVgT42iI31c?si=WEuvie-fIDaGk2J6&t=141 https://youtu.be/tVgT42iI31c?si=WEuvie-fIDaGk2J6&t=141 (I haven't found any other videos on the internet apart from these two.) You can see how this is an incredible illustration tool. If they were to open source this, this would immediately become the top image generation model over Flux, Imagen 4, etc. At this point, really only gpt-image-1 stands apart as having godlike instructivity, but it's on the other end of the [real time <--> instructive] spectrum. A total creative image tool kit might just be gpt-image-1 and Hunyuan Image 2.0. The other models are degenerate cases. More image samples: https://x.com/Gdgtify/status/1923374102653317545 https://x.com/Gdgtify/status/1923374102653317545 If anyone from Tencent or the Hunyuan team is reading this: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE OPEN SOURCE THIS. (PLEASE!!)

Narciss 1y ago
This is amazing, can’t see how I’ve missed it. Thank you!
- echelon 1y ago
  I've given this some more thought. Even if Imagen 4 isn't that great on its own, all of Google's models and UX products in conjunction (Veo 3, Flow, etc.) are orders of magnitude above the rest of the playing field. If Tencent wants to keep Google from winning the game, they should open source their models. From my perspective right now, it looks like Google is going to win this entire game, and open source AI might be the only way to stop that from being a runaway victory.
dheera 1y ago
> but Imagen 4 doesn't really stand out amongst its image gen peers. In this AI rat race, whenever one model gets ahead, they all tend to reach parity within 3-6 months. If you can wait 6 months to create your video I'm sure Imagen 5 will be more than good enough. It's honestly kind of ridiculous the pace things are moving at these days. 10 years ago waiting a year for something was very normal, nowadays people are judging the model-of-the-week against last week's model-of-the-week but last week's org will probably not sleep and they'll release another one next week.

Narciss 1y ago

This is amazing, can’t see how I’ve missed it. Thank you!

echelon 1y ago
I've given this some more thought. Even if Imagen 4 isn't that great on its own, all of Google's models and UX products in conjunction (Veo 3, Flow, etc.) are orders of magnitude above the rest of the playing field. If Tencent wants to keep Google from winning the game, they should open source their models. From my perspective right now, it looks like Google is going to win this entire game, and open source AI might be the only way to stop that from being a runaway victory.

dheera 1y ago

> but Imagen 4 doesn't really stand out amongst its image gen peers. In this AI rat race, whenever one model gets ahead, they all tend to reach parity within 3-6 months. If you can wait 6 months to create your video I'm sure Imagen 5 will be more than good enough. It's honestly kind of ridiculous the pace things are moving at these days. 10 years ago waiting a year for something was very normal, nowadays people are judging the model-of-the-week against last week's model-of-the-week but last week's org will probably not sleep and they'll release another one next week.