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> I make songs daily Sorry for being blunt, but you do not. You receive some music matching your request from a service offered by an entity which aims to con

> I make songs daily Sorry for being blunt, but you do not. You receive some music matching your request from a service offered by an entity which aims to control as much of content creation and distribution as possible, up to total monopolization. > I’m not a musician... Now I can with $10-$15 / month. If you want to create music, do it, it doesn't require much money. If you just want to listen, there's literally thousands of authors creating all kinds of authentic, sincere, daring, skillfully performed, carefully mixed music, giving it away for next to nothing and still striving to find their listeners. What you pay for is avoiding the effort of finding what suits you.

teitoklien 1y ago
No amigo, no artist out there made a japanese song on my anime obsessed schoolteacher friend and his life. When he received that song from me, he was super excited for next 3-5 days and still listens to it and flexes them to their friends. Same thing happened with a lot of my other friends and me too, I have an apple shortcut script that generates songs for me daily based on my routine for that day pulled from todoist.com I still listen to and pay for others music and songs, but this experience with AI is entirely different. What I pay for is not avoiding effort of finding what suits me but creating what suits me. > You receive some music matching your request from a service offered by an entity which aims to control as much of content creation and distribution as possible, up to total monopolization. What I receive is a high fidelity song made from prompts that i’m given full ownership of , when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs. Its very nature is the opposite of monopoly. I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly ? Never had an experience where your spotify or apple music streaming albums disappear randomly due to those big 3 corps ? My friend’s song of himself will never disappear that mp3 file he can store on a pen drive, load ig anywhere, gift to anyone. How is that the “monopoly” ?
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  > when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs. I can assure you, local generation is to become a fringe activity, same as self-hosting web services, only worse, because the quality gap (which in case of software is often negligible) will be insurmountable. > I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly? It's not a monopoly, it's a cartel. Luckily, they don't own everything, though, too much they do. > no artist out there made a japanese song on my anime obsessed schoolteacher friend and his life. Ok, what you describe is commissioning. Yeah, you can't argue with the fact it now can be done almost free and is becoming good enough for most, but you have to keep in mind, this process had been feeding a considerable amount of artists who do it to keep producing their art. Cutting this source of income is not wrong per se, but the consequences are the opposite of supporting the diversity and abundance in arts.
  - teitoklien 1y ago
    > but the consequences are the opposite of supporting the diversity and abundance in arts. I made 5 songs about 5 different people in a week, with carefully crafted lyrics and tones described by me in the custom prompt, that led to 10 mp3 files of songs (suno generates 2 songs per prompt) Those songs are out there, it’s different, it’s not sloppy it’s actually quite enjoyable. Now there is more diversity and abundance those songs wouldn’t have existed without AI and there are millions doing it like me out there, those artists who produce songs also have same tools as me, they can be better than me, faster, better, more albums now made by them, edit stuff to perfection, ideate and iterate faster. Who is stopping them ? Tell me this song is trash and slop : https://suno.com/song/c36741d6-ec62-4922-86f9-6fd0b6f37497 https://suno.com/song/c36741d6-ec62-4922-86f9-6fd0b6f37497 This is in replacement of me and my friends listening to their same 20-40 artists who would be in billboards list each month. Tell me it has hurt the abundance and diversity of songs out there, that it stopped someone from making their own thing or others listening to their songs, I listen to that song, it’s made by someone else with AI, I don’t mind, it’s awesome !
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teitoklien 1y ago

No amigo, no artist out there made a japanese song on my anime obsessed schoolteacher friend and his life. When he received that song from me, he was super excited for next 3-5 days and still listens to it and flexes them to their friends. Same thing happened with a lot of my other friends and me too, I have an apple shortcut script that generates songs for me daily based on my routine for that day pulled from todoist.com I still listen to and pay for others music and songs, but this experience with AI is entirely different. What I pay for is not avoiding effort of finding what suits me but creating what suits me. > You receive some music matching your request from a service offered by an entity which aims to control as much of content creation and distribution as possible, up to total monopolization. What I receive is a high fidelity song made from prompts that i’m given full ownership of , when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs. Its very nature is the opposite of monopoly. I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly ? Never had an experience where your spotify or apple music streaming albums disappear randomly due to those big 3 corps ? My friend’s song of himself will never disappear that mp3 file he can store on a pen drive, load ig anywhere, gift to anyone. How is that the “monopoly” ?

ZoomZoomZoom 1y ago
> when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs. I can assure you, local generation is to become a fringe activity, same as self-hosting web services, only worse, because the quality gap (which in case of software is often negligible) will be insurmountable. > I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly? It's not a monopoly, it's a cartel. Luckily, they don't own everything, though, too much they do. > no artist out there made a japanese song on my anime obsessed schoolteacher friend and his life. Ok, what you describe is commissioning. Yeah, you can't argue with the fact it now can be done almost free and is becoming good enough for most, but you have to keep in mind, this process had been feeding a considerable amount of artists who do it to keep producing their art. Cutting this source of income is not wrong per se, but the consequences are the opposite of supporting the diversity and abundance in arts.
- teitoklien 1y ago
  > but the consequences are the opposite of supporting the diversity and abundance in arts. I made 5 songs about 5 different people in a week, with carefully crafted lyrics and tones described by me in the custom prompt, that led to 10 mp3 files of songs (suno generates 2 songs per prompt) Those songs are out there, it’s different, it’s not sloppy it’s actually quite enjoyable. Now there is more diversity and abundance those songs wouldn’t have existed without AI and there are millions doing it like me out there, those artists who produce songs also have same tools as me, they can be better than me, faster, better, more albums now made by them, edit stuff to perfection, ideate and iterate faster. Who is stopping them ? Tell me this song is trash and slop : https://suno.com/song/c36741d6-ec62-4922-86f9-6fd0b6f37497 https://suno.com/song/c36741d6-ec62-4922-86f9-6fd0b6f37497 This is in replacement of me and my friends listening to their same 20-40 artists who would be in billboards list each month. Tell me it has hurt the abundance and diversity of songs out there, that it stopped someone from making their own thing or others listening to their songs, I listen to that song, it’s made by someone else with AI, I don’t mind, it’s awesome !
  - ZoomZoomZoom 1y ago