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I’m a creative and I’m really glad that more people can express themselves Just wanted to add representation to that feeling

lilwobbles 1y ago
Expressing themselves by generating boilerplate content? Creativity is a conversation with yourself and God. Stripping away the struggle that comes with creativity defeats the entire purpose. Making it easier to make content is good for capital, but no one will ever get fulfillment out of prompting an AI and settling with the result.
- ivape 1y ago
  Check out all the creatives on /r/screenwriting, half the time they are trying to figure out how to "make connections" just to get a story considered. It's a fucking nightmare out there. Whatever god is providing us with AI is the greatest gift I could imagine to a creative.
  - onemoresoop 1y ago
    AI could be useful if used like any other tool, but not as an all in box where everything is done for you minus the prompt. Im actually worried people will become lazy
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    - drusepth 1y ago
      People will always become lazy with new tools. But not all people. It'll lower the barrier of entry (and therefore the quality floor before people feel comfortable sharing something "they made" if they can deflect with an easy "the AI made this" versus "I put XY0 hours into this"), but it'll also empower people who wouldn't otherwise even try to create new things and, presumably, follow their passion to learn and do more.
      - onemoresoop 1y ago
        Im sure not all people will become lazy but im worried about the trend in general.
        ivape 1y ago
        Creativity is an expression. It comes from the heart. Hard work isn't always the greatest vehicle for creativity. We just think it is. I've seen plenty of things that clearly took a lot of execution but fundamentally lack creativity, often becoming an exhibition in technical virtuosity. Here's something you can try to prove it to yourself. Sit down and write a novel. It'll be like squeezing blood out of a rock unless your heart is ready to do it freely. You'll see that if you force yourself through hard work to do it, you'll just end up with something that people will laud as creative due to the execution but it'll lack everything about free-flowing creativity. Good programmers are lazy, so are good creatives, but now I'm just repeating myself. It's a lot easier squeezing blood out of a heart, especially for the lazy.
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  exactly, creatives and everyone else can always do something fulfilling for themselves just like before AI. They can struggle all they want and continue doing it for no capital. because that process is fulfilling to them.
  - onemoresoop 1y ago
    Yes but how many will sign up for that? Im sure few will continue to do so but creativity will certainly take a big hit.
    - yieldcrv 1y ago
      > Yes but how many will sign up for that? Im sure few will continue to do so but crea It’s not important to me that they do. > Im sure few will continue to do so but creativity will certainly take a big hit. I’ve seen the workflows for AI generated films like https://youtu.be/x6aERZWaarM?si=J2VHYAHLL3og32Ix https://youtu.be/x6aERZWaarM?si=J2VHYAHLL3og32Ix and I find it to be very creative. Its more interesting to me that this person would never have raised capital and tried to direct this, but this is much closer to what they wanted to create. I’m also entertained by it, whether I was judging it for generative AI issues or not.
StefanBatory 1y ago
They always could express themselves.
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  Not close to the way they wanted, and at too much sacrifice to the other things they were interested in or supported their family with
  - emkoemko 1y ago
    so they where never interested in the first place... but now they can call them self's artists after prompting a AI to make a image....
    - yieldcrv 1y ago
      the level of discipline needed in a trade has gone down in almost every trade, including all mediums of art, for centuries its not really anyone's problem, and generally limited to the people that made way too much of their identity to be based on a single field, that they feel they have to gatekeep it its great that people can express themselves closer to their vision now

lilwobbles 1y ago

Expressing themselves by generating boilerplate content? Creativity is a conversation with yourself and God. Stripping away the struggle that comes with creativity defeats the entire purpose. Making it easier to make content is good for capital, but no one will ever get fulfillment out of prompting an AI and settling with the result.

ivape 1y ago
Check out all the creatives on /r/screenwriting, half the time they are trying to figure out how to "make connections" just to get a story considered. It's a fucking nightmare out there. Whatever god is providing us with AI is the greatest gift I could imagine to a creative.
- onemoresoop 1y ago
  AI could be useful if used like any other tool, but not as an all in box where everything is done for you minus the prompt. Im actually worried people will become lazy
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - drusepth 1y ago
    People will always become lazy with new tools. But not all people. It'll lower the barrier of entry (and therefore the quality floor before people feel comfortable sharing something "they made" if they can deflect with an easy "the AI made this" versus "I put XY0 hours into this"), but it'll also empower people who wouldn't otherwise even try to create new things and, presumably, follow their passion to learn and do more.
    - onemoresoop 1y ago
      Im sure not all people will become lazy but im worried about the trend in general.
      - ivape 1y ago
        Creativity is an expression. It comes from the heart. Hard work isn't always the greatest vehicle for creativity. We just think it is. I've seen plenty of things that clearly took a lot of execution but fundamentally lack creativity, often becoming an exhibition in technical virtuosity. Here's something you can try to prove it to yourself. Sit down and write a novel. It'll be like squeezing blood out of a rock unless your heart is ready to do it freely. You'll see that if you force yourself through hard work to do it, you'll just end up with something that people will laud as creative due to the execution but it'll lack everything about free-flowing creativity. Good programmers are lazy, so are good creatives, but now I'm just repeating myself. It's a lot easier squeezing blood out of a heart, especially for the lazy.
yieldcrv 1y ago
exactly, creatives and everyone else can always do something fulfilling for themselves just like before AI. They can struggle all they want and continue doing it for no capital. because that process is fulfilling to them.
- onemoresoop 1y ago
  Yes but how many will sign up for that? Im sure few will continue to do so but creativity will certainly take a big hit.
  - yieldcrv 1y ago
    > Yes but how many will sign up for that? Im sure few will continue to do so but crea It’s not important to me that they do. > Im sure few will continue to do so but creativity will certainly take a big hit. I’ve seen the workflows for AI generated films like https://youtu.be/x6aERZWaarM?si=J2VHYAHLL3og32Ix https://youtu.be/x6aERZWaarM?si=J2VHYAHLL3og32Ix and I find it to be very creative. Its more interesting to me that this person would never have raised capital and tried to direct this, but this is much closer to what they wanted to create. I’m also entertained by it, whether I was judging it for generative AI issues or not.

StefanBatory 1y ago

They always could express themselves.

yieldcrv 1y ago
Not close to the way they wanted, and at too much sacrifice to the other things they were interested in or supported their family with
- emkoemko 1y ago
  so they where never interested in the first place... but now they can call them self's artists after prompting a AI to make a image....
  - yieldcrv 1y ago
    the level of discipline needed in a trade has gone down in almost every trade, including all mediums of art, for centuries its not really anyone's problem, and generally limited to the people that made way too much of their identity to be based on a single field, that they feel they have to gatekeep it its great that people can express themselves closer to their vision now