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> There’s been some criticism lately about Deno - about Deploy, KV, Fresh, and our momentum in general. It seems like they never replied to the criticism again
by diggan 1y ago
> There’s been some criticism lately about Deno - about Deploy, KV, Fresh, and our momentum in general.
It seems like they never replied to the criticism against their momentum (something I haven't seen myself, what would the argument even be), was that intentional or just missed?
> Some of that criticism is valid.
Would have been great to also outline what criticism is/was valid, and how they're aiming to solve those things. Sure, maybe a bit "shoot yourself in the foot" but personally I really prefer companies that are upfront about the drawbacks, and makes it more likely I'll chose them. Migadu is a great example of this, where they have a pro/con page where they are upfront about the drawbacks of using Migadu (https://migadu.com/procon/ https://migadu.com/procon/). Just the existence of that page is probably ~20% of why I chose Migadu in the first place.
- skybrian 1y agoHere’s how they addressed momentum: > Since the release of Deno 2 last October - barely over six months ago! - Deno adoption has more than doubled according to our monthly active user metrics. The obvious question is: doubled, but compared to what? And what are they measuring? They’re not disclosing any real metrics on adoption. I think what happened is that people were giving them the benefit of the doubt because they were new and you could imagine huge growth. The disappointment is by comparison to vague hopes and dreams.
- anon7000 1y agoMonthly active users is a real measurement.
- robertlutece 1y agosure, but from 1 to 2 or from 1M to 2M
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoIn 2022 it was 250.000 monthly users [0], according to a "community" blurb on their homepage they have over 400.000 [1]. [0] https://deno.com/blog/changes#a-large-and-growing-ecosystem https://deno.com/blog/changes#a-large-and-growing-ecosystem [1] https://deno.com/ https://deno.com/