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If you’re wondering how qualified this guy is to be making such outrageous claims about AI, his background is that he’s a... journalist

by brap 1y ago

echelon 1y ago
Doesn't mean lay people have the wrong ideas about where this is going. It seems obvious that we'll keep building this tech up until the very end. Every AI coding startup is trying to automate the software engineer and reduce the cost of software, yet engineers fling themselves at the problem. In the GitHub Copilot AMA today they were practically giddy about it. And in OpenAI Codex's Reddit AMA, they stated the mission was to make the delivery of end-to-end well-defined software a fully solved problem within a decade. "But what about your own jobs?", people ask. Crickets. We're going to be building it until we have no more to contribute. Not a value statement, just a statement of what evidently looks to be the case. Now I don't personally have a problem with software automation - I'd love to automate myself and do more. I might even be one of the people building the thing. But I have a problem with trillion dollar companies unilaterally owning the means of production and seeing the recursive upside behind a mile-tall moat. I'd never be able to work for company that rivals nation states. AI will only work for all of us if there is no single, limited set of winners. If there is no moat. Not sure we'll be so lucky.
- consp 1y ago
  > they stated the mission was to make the delivery of end-to-end well-defined software a fully solved problem within a decade You should look into the "business language as a programming" platforms and see how they are doing. Trying to eliminate all IT except for the bare minimum for years and going nowhere. I'm sceptical at all the "AI" companies branding their own product as the panacea. It is all marketing.
  - echelon 1y ago
    I thought that about Waymo cars a decade ago.
- palmotea 1y ago
  > Every AI coding startup is trying to automate the software engineer and reduce the cost of software, yet engineers fling themselves at the problem. Despite our massively inflated opinions of our intellectual abilities, software engineers actually tend to be pretty stupid and unwise.
palmotea 1y ago
> If you’re wondering how qualified this guy is to be making such outrageous claims about AI, his background is that he’s a... journalist Who is qualified? The people making the technology whose short-term interest is in advancing it, despite the costs?

If you’re wondering how qualified this guy is to be making such outrageous claims about AI, his background is that he’s a... journalist

by brap 1y ago

If you’re wondering how qualified this guy is to be making such outrageous claims about AI, his background is that he’s a... journalist

echelon 1y ago

Doesn't mean lay people have the wrong ideas about where this is going. It seems obvious that we'll keep building this tech up until the very end. Every AI coding startup is trying to automate the software engineer and reduce the cost of software, yet engineers fling themselves at the problem. In the GitHub Copilot AMA today they were practically giddy about it. And in OpenAI Codex's Reddit AMA, they stated the mission was to make the delivery of end-to-end well-defined software a fully solved problem within a decade. "But what about your own jobs?", people ask. Crickets. We're going to be building it until we have no more to contribute. Not a value statement, just a statement of what evidently looks to be the case. Now I don't personally have a problem with software automation - I'd love to automate myself and do more. I might even be one of the people building the thing. But I have a problem with trillion dollar companies unilaterally owning the means of production and seeing the recursive upside behind a mile-tall moat. I'd never be able to work for company that rivals nation states. AI will only work for all of us if there is no single, limited set of winners. If there is no moat. Not sure we'll be so lucky.

consp 1y ago
> they stated the mission was to make the delivery of end-to-end well-defined software a fully solved problem within a decade You should look into the "business language as a programming" platforms and see how they are doing. Trying to eliminate all IT except for the bare minimum for years and going nowhere. I'm sceptical at all the "AI" companies branding their own product as the panacea. It is all marketing.
- echelon 1y ago
  I thought that about Waymo cars a decade ago.
palmotea 1y ago
> Every AI coding startup is trying to automate the software engineer and reduce the cost of software, yet engineers fling themselves at the problem. Despite our massively inflated opinions of our intellectual abilities, software engineers actually tend to be pretty stupid and unwise.

palmotea 1y ago

> If you’re wondering how qualified this guy is to be making such outrageous claims about AI, his background is that he’s a... journalist Who is qualified? The people making the technology whose short-term interest is in advancing it, despite the costs?