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Its not semantics at all, you just are excusing your own misunderstanding. He didn't describe himself with a job title, and he even explicitly states directly
by cupofnotjoe 1y ago
Its not semantics at all, you just are excusing your own misunderstanding. He didn't describe himself with a job title, and he even explicitly states directly after listing those awards, that he is not an employee of Microsoft.
Extending your logic, I have a CCIE, so if I ever state I'm a CCIE, I'm an employee of Cisco? I have a masters degree by coursework from a university, so I I ever state I have an Msc, I'm an employee of the university? I have an electrical licences issued by EnergySafe Victoria, so if I say I'm an A-Grade Electrician, I'm an employee of EnergySafe Victoria?
- patmorgan23 1y agoIf I say "I'm a Cisco Regional Director" or "I'm a Walmart Regional Director" is you immediate though that I don't work for Cisco/Walmart?
- shkkmo 1y agoNobody is really disputing that Microsoft chose a confusing award name. However that name being confusing doesn't mean he is an employee or anything really like an employee.
- anonymars 1y agoRemind me what CCIE stands for? I don't think many people would be confused into thinking a Microsoft Certified Application Developer or an AWS Certified Cloud Practitioner are actually employees of those particular companies
- shkkmo 1y agoYes, those are better names. That doesn't make him a Microsoft employee.
- anonymars 1y agoI'm not saying it makes him an employee. I'm saying those are bad attempts to argue that it's not a confusing title.
- shkkmo 1y ago> I'm saying those are bad attempts to argue that it's not a confusing title. You might want to reread, nobody was arguing that. > We can debate semantics but if you describe yourself with a job title attached to a company then I suggest that you have an association which looks rather like ... employment. "Debating semantics" is arguing about which definition to use. There is no valid definition under which you can say that Troy is a Microsoft employee. You can't say "I'm not wrong, You're just debating semantics", all you can say is "I was wrong because I was confused by a misleading title I wasn't familiar with." cupofnotjoe pointed this out and got a bunch of responses from people with poor reading comprehension who entirely missed his point. Edit: I use 'you' in the general sense here, not specifically the person I'm responding to.
- anonymars 1y agoI'm going to sum this up as > Its not semantics at all, you just are excusing your own misunderstanding. He didn't describe himself with a job title, and he even explicitly states directly after listing those awards, that he is not an employee of Microsoft. Yes, I agree. (I believe you think I am arguing against this; for clarity, I am not). > Extending your logic, I have a CCIE, so if I ever state I'm a CCIE, I'm an employee of Cisco? I have a masters degree by coursework from a university, so I I ever state I have an Msc, I'm an employee of the university? I have an electrical licences issued by EnergySafe Victoria, so if I say I'm an A-Grade Electrician, I'm an employee of EnergySafe Victoria? I think these are poor examples and reinforce that the confusion was reasonable. That is the only point I've been arguing in this thread.
- detaro 1y agoAll your examples are not things that commonly are job titles, so you are not "extending logic".
- shkkmo 1y agoThe things he mentioned are of the same class, so yes, it does "extend the logic". Just because the name for something is confusing, that doesn't change the nature of the thing named.
- anonymars 1y agoThey are not of the same class. The class is "job title", implying employment. "Regional director" is a job title. The others are not.
- shkkmo 1y ago"Microsoft Regional Director" is not a job title. It is an award that Microsoft gives out only to non-employees. You might think the award has a confusing name, and you would be correct. What you cannot be correct in asserting is that an award makes someone an employee because that award has a confusing name. That isn't a question of "semantics", if you assert that award makes him an employee, you are simply wrong.
- skarz 1y agoDirectly adjacent to the post it says "Hi, I'm Troy Hunt, I write this blog, run "Have I Been Pwned" and am a Microsoft Regional Director and MVP who travels the world speaking at events and training technology professionals" That reads to me like he's a Microsoft Employee. It's obviously important/significant enough to include it prominently on his website.
- BrandoElFollito 1y agoWell TBH, if you say that you are a cisco security engineer, I would assume you are from Cisco. Same for ACME whatever. He made it clear that he is not MS but this is the only time I saw such a misleading "title"