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You're not being imprisoned, executed, or fined. You're being sent home.
by noqc 1y ago
You're not being imprisoned, executed, or fined. You're being sent home.
- ben_w 1y agoSome of them very much are being imprisoned, and deportations are not all to the country of origin. Also, if the US government is doing deportations *for speech*, that's definitely 100% a free speech issue.
- pjc50 1y agoDeportation is if nothing else a significant financial loss to people. And forcible deportation comes with a period of imprisonment. Let's not forget that people being sent to El Salvador who are not from there are not being deported, they're very definitely being imprisoned.
- noqc 1y ago>forcible deportation comes with a period of imprisonment. You are at any point free to get on a plane home. >Let's not forget that people being sent to El Salvador Sure, but they aren't being rendered to El Salvador for their speech, which is what this particular conversation is about.
- horsawlarway 1y ago> You're not being imprisoned, executed, or fined. You're being sent home. Why do you think this matters? Further, why do you think this isn't a punishment (often of greater impact than a fine? Nothing like paying for 3/4 of a top tier ivy diploma only to be sent home a few semesters before graduating - nifty little 100k fine right there...) These are clear punishments applied by the admin towards a group of people making specific speech they don't like. You are ok with that. Ipso facto - you are not pro free speech. I... don't really know why you're bothering to argue that you are.