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Hilarious that companies like Verizon get pushed around by dopes like Carr and Trump.

by op00to 1y ago

jaoane 1y ago
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- aaronbrethorst 1y ago
  This seems relevant: https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/
  - jaoane 1y ago
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    - aaronbrethorst 1y ago
      I know it's fun to pretend that HN is a hive mind, but it's really not. Trying to not-gotcha people on here under the presumption that they are responsible for the opinions of someone else is reductive and frankly kind of boring.
    - mistrial9 1y ago
      guidelines for posting on YNews https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
stackskipton 1y ago
Companies will only fight back on things that impact their short-term bottom line. Ending DEI is unlikely to impact their bottom line but mergers do so out with DEI programs they go.
- rdtsc 1y ago
  > Companies will only fight back on things that impact their short-term bottom line. The speed with which they all dropped DEI programs was shocking. Especially after years of saying how it's critical, it makes them more vibrant, stronger, etc. I guess they never believed any of that. It seems Stripe CEO is the only one left wondering what the heck happened: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/05/16/john-collison-of-stripe-i-am-baffled-by-companies-doing-an-about-face-on-social-initiatives/ https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/05/16/john-collison... ( https://archive.ph/5PFgq https://archive.ph/5PFgq ) > “I am baffled by all the companies doing an about-face on their social initiatives right now. Did you not actually mean it in the first place? Either don’t do it, or do it and stay doing it, but don’t do this ‘DEI is cancelled now’,” he says. “It’s very odd to me.”
  - tdeck 1y ago
    I think these companies found it harder to hire, and thus worked harder to look good to perspective employees. Now with the hiring market being reset in a way that favors employers, a lot of that is going away.
    - acdha 1y ago
      I think that’s right, extending hiring to include retention. Tech workers had an almost two decade run of extremely high negotiating power and many used that to have more influence on company policies than most workers are allowed. There’s a theory that what we’re seeing now is more resentment about upsetting the power dynamic than any actual cost these guys suffered, and that’s compatible with e.g. those leaked group chats.
  - 9283409232 1y ago
    Credit to him I guess. Someone should keep a list of companies that are sticking to their guns.
  - mizzack 1y ago
    The end of ESG investing and, yes, preference falsification and preference cascade. They never believed in it, it was just socially unacceptable to admit it until the pendulum swung back in the other direction.

Hilarious that companies like Verizon get pushed around by dopes like Carr and Trump.

by op00to 1y ago

Hilarious that companies like Verizon get pushed around by dopes like Carr and Trump.

jaoane 1y ago

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aaronbrethorst 1y ago
This seems relevant: https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/
- jaoane 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - aaronbrethorst 1y ago
    I know it's fun to pretend that HN is a hive mind, but it's really not. Trying to not-gotcha people on here under the presumption that they are responsible for the opinions of someone else is reductive and frankly kind of boring.
  - mistrial9 1y ago
    guidelines for posting on YNews https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

stackskipton 1y ago

Companies will only fight back on things that impact their short-term bottom line. Ending DEI is unlikely to impact their bottom line but mergers do so out with DEI programs they go.

rdtsc 1y ago
> Companies will only fight back on things that impact their short-term bottom line. The speed with which they all dropped DEI programs was shocking. Especially after years of saying how it's critical, it makes them more vibrant, stronger, etc. I guess they never believed any of that. It seems Stripe CEO is the only one left wondering what the heck happened: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/05/16/john-collison-of-stripe-i-am-baffled-by-companies-doing-an-about-face-on-social-initiatives/ https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/05/16/john-collison... ( https://archive.ph/5PFgq https://archive.ph/5PFgq ) > “I am baffled by all the companies doing an about-face on their social initiatives right now. Did you not actually mean it in the first place? Either don’t do it, or do it and stay doing it, but don’t do this ‘DEI is cancelled now’,” he says. “It’s very odd to me.”
- tdeck 1y ago
  I think these companies found it harder to hire, and thus worked harder to look good to perspective employees. Now with the hiring market being reset in a way that favors employers, a lot of that is going away.
  - acdha 1y ago
    I think that’s right, extending hiring to include retention. Tech workers had an almost two decade run of extremely high negotiating power and many used that to have more influence on company policies than most workers are allowed. There’s a theory that what we’re seeing now is more resentment about upsetting the power dynamic than any actual cost these guys suffered, and that’s compatible with e.g. those leaked group chats.
- 9283409232 1y ago
  Credit to him I guess. Someone should keep a list of companies that are sticking to their guns.
- mizzack 1y ago
  The end of ESG investing and, yes, preference falsification and preference cascade. They never believed in it, it was just socially unacceptable to admit it until the pendulum swung back in the other direction.