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PS: I really don't understand the downvotes to my post. I've just expressed my (educated and objective) warning.

by huqedato 1y ago

dudefeliciano 1y ago
Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
- Chris2048 1y ago
  I love reading comments about the voting on comments; On the otherhand I find comments on what comments induviduals find "boring" to be tedious.
  - detaro 1y ago
    It's a quote from the site rules.
    - Chris2048 1y ago
      Actually, it's a quote from the comment I responded to. It, in turn, appears to be a promotion of one of the site guidelines. In turn I would promote the official guideline: "On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting" as well as the not-official personal guideline: "Guideline-lawering is boring, and uninteresting to any good hacker, or true codesman."
      - dudefeliciano 1y ago
        No it wasn’t quote from the original comment, i copy pasted from the guidelines - and the comment “why am I getting downvoted” is off topic in regards to EU and tech funding. The guideline exist precisely to avoid every post devolving into the (boring) conversation we are having now.
        Chris2048 1y ago
        Yes, it was, I was quoting your comment - I'm the authority on that fact. > is off topic in regards to EU and tech funding cool, then it's a tangent to the original topic, as is your own comment policing. Who made you the voice of HN?
        dudefeliciano 1y ago
        > Who made you the voice of HN? The fact that I read and understood the guidelines? If I had not said that someone else would have. BTW "On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting" refers to submissions, not comments.
- jack_h 1y ago
  One of the primary reasons I quit using reddit was because of the ideological dog piling that turned so many communities into insular echo chambers. I know you’re just quoting the rules, but I’m noticing the same process happening here. It would be a shame if HN continued this trend while everyone stayed silent.
  - dudefeliciano 1y ago
    Do you think the question “why am I getting downvoted” is interesting? And is it interesting enough to warrant a separate comment thread? Now imagine if everyone who got downvotes started asking that question, it would lower the quality of conversations here, people would start justifying their vote and their opinion or attacking the other. And in the end, I doubt the people downvoting would really answer, only the people agreeing/upvoting would post some snarky comment about the downvoters being fools, or the quality of the site going down. That’s the “it never does any good” part (were already in it in this conversation IMO) In my opinion that comment got downvoted because it’s not interesting. It’s a comment I have heard dozens of times, did not provide any example or source, and plenty other people posted effectively the same in here.
sowhat25 1y ago
I share your sentiment, I'm also very skeptical that this money will be wisely used, a good chunk of it probably sinks into the Treibsand of European bureaucracy. And significant amounts will go to shallow ideas of startups. Europe just doesn't have the right startup spirit. It's over regulated and risk averse. Both fatal for a fruitful development.
- fock 1y ago
  it's not sinking in the bureaucracy. There's an industry of outright fraud an embezzlement...
christkv 1y ago
It’s people who either don’t know how it works when dealing with the EU or maybe they are beneficiaries. /shrug
aranelsurion 1y ago
I haven't downvoted you, but I understand why some might have because every thread on Hacker News regarding Europe and software attract this exact comment almost as if written from a template. Doesn't make it right or wrong, but it gets a little stale.

PS: I really don't understand the downvotes to my post. I've just expressed my (educated and objective) warning.

dudefeliciano 1y ago

Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

Chris2048 1y ago
I love reading comments about the voting on comments; On the otherhand I find comments on what comments induviduals find "boring" to be tedious.
- detaro 1y ago
  It's a quote from the site rules.
  - Chris2048 1y ago
    Actually, it's a quote from the comment I responded to. It, in turn, appears to be a promotion of one of the site guidelines. In turn I would promote the official guideline: "On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting" as well as the not-official personal guideline: "Guideline-lawering is boring, and uninteresting to any good hacker, or true codesman."
    - dudefeliciano 1y ago
      No it wasn’t quote from the original comment, i copy pasted from the guidelines - and the comment “why am I getting downvoted” is off topic in regards to EU and tech funding. The guideline exist precisely to avoid every post devolving into the (boring) conversation we are having now.
      - Chris2048 1y ago
        Yes, it was, I was quoting your comment - I'm the authority on that fact. > is off topic in regards to EU and tech funding cool, then it's a tangent to the original topic, as is your own comment policing. Who made you the voice of HN?
        dudefeliciano 1y ago
        > Who made you the voice of HN? The fact that I read and understood the guidelines? If I had not said that someone else would have. BTW "On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting" refers to submissions, not comments.
jack_h 1y ago
One of the primary reasons I quit using reddit was because of the ideological dog piling that turned so many communities into insular echo chambers. I know you’re just quoting the rules, but I’m noticing the same process happening here. It would be a shame if HN continued this trend while everyone stayed silent.
- dudefeliciano 1y ago
  Do you think the question “why am I getting downvoted” is interesting? And is it interesting enough to warrant a separate comment thread? Now imagine if everyone who got downvotes started asking that question, it would lower the quality of conversations here, people would start justifying their vote and their opinion or attacking the other. And in the end, I doubt the people downvoting would really answer, only the people agreeing/upvoting would post some snarky comment about the downvoters being fools, or the quality of the site going down. That’s the “it never does any good” part (were already in it in this conversation IMO) In my opinion that comment got downvoted because it’s not interesting. It’s a comment I have heard dozens of times, did not provide any example or source, and plenty other people posted effectively the same in here.

sowhat25 1y ago

I share your sentiment, I'm also very skeptical that this money will be wisely used, a good chunk of it probably sinks into the Treibsand of European bureaucracy. And significant amounts will go to shallow ideas of startups. Europe just doesn't have the right startup spirit. It's over regulated and risk averse. Both fatal for a fruitful development.

fock 1y ago
it's not sinking in the bureaucracy. There's an industry of outright fraud an embezzlement...

christkv 1y ago

It’s people who either don’t know how it works when dealing with the EU or maybe they are beneficiaries. /shrug

aranelsurion 1y ago

I haven't downvoted you, but I understand why some might have because every thread on Hacker News regarding Europe and software attract this exact comment almost as if written from a template. Doesn't make it right or wrong, but it gets a little stale.