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Lol you can 3d print a gun in my state, stick it down your waist band, and go about your day, and you are legally good to go no law broken no paperwork needed.

by ty6853 1y ago

Lol you can 3d print a gun in my state, stick it down your waist band, and go about your day, and you are legally good to go no law broken no paperwork needed. You could even walk in a bank with it -- As long as you don't plan on opening an account, then you need zee papers as that is too dangerous. Also the silencer doesn't have to be made by an FFL as the article states. If you pay $200 for the tax stamp you can legally make it yourself.

johng 1y ago
I've heard that the timeline to get the stamps for suppressors is less now but it used to take sometimes a year to a year and a half to get the stamp.
- twalla 1y ago
  It depends on what type of transfer you're doing but it's way faster now: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times
  - ty6853 1y ago
    It would be a form 1, there is no transfer in this case.
- zomg 1y ago
  A suppressor is transferred from an FLL to a buyer via a Form 4, not a Form 1. Form 1 is for the manufacturing of an NFA item and most people are not manufacturing suppressors, they are purchased.
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zomg 1y ago
All of these comments are wrong and you sound very uneducated. - Certain states have serialization requirements and registration once a firearm is assembled (the slide is connected to the frame). - Many states require a permit to conceal carry but may only require a driver’s license to purchase (meaning you can own but not conceal without a permit). - If a store posts signage saying firearms are prohibited, you legally can enter, however you can be trespassed if they discover you possess a firearm. This is generally not a criminal charge, unless your firearm is possessed illegally or another violation has taken place. - A “suppressor” (the more correct and accurate term) is purchased from an FFL and transferred to the buyer via an ATF Form 4 (not a Form 1). Additionally, certain states do not allow the possession of a suppressor, regardless of the legality at the Federal level. FFLs don’t generally manufacture suppressors, they sell them.
- ty6853 1y ago
  >- Certain states have serialization requirements and registration once a firearm is assembled (the slide is connected to the frame). Cool, not mine, not for a title 1 firearm like a handgun. I did say 'my state' not 'your state.' >- Many states require a permit to conceal carry but may only require a driver’s license to purchase (meaning you can own but not conceal without a permit). Cool, mine doesn't require a drivers license to make a gun and doesn't require a CCW or ID to conceal it. >- If a store posts signage saying firearms are prohibited, you legally can enter, however you can be trespassed if they discover you possess a firearm. This is generally not a criminal charge, unless your firearm is possessed illegally or another violation has taken place. My local bank ('a bank') doesn't have that, maybe yours does. >- A “suppressor” (the more correct and accurate term) is purchased from an FFL and transferred to the buyer via an ATF Form 4 (not a Form 1). Additionally, certain states do not allow the possession of a suppressor, regardless of the legality at the Federal level. FFLs don’t generally manufacture suppressors, they sell them. FFL type 7 makes suppressors for a profit. You generally cannot make silencers intended for sale without an FFL. A private individual can make them with a form 1 without involving an FFL. That is, you pay the NFA tax stamp filed under form 1 and make it, there is no transfer or from 4 needed if you legally make a silencer. I don't care which you call it, the NFA calls it a silencer, it is dumb but the government doesn't give a shit that you call it a suppressor they will lock your ass up if it meets their definition of a 'silencer' regardless of chosen semantics.

by ty6853 1y ago

johng 1y ago

I've heard that the timeline to get the stamps for suppressors is less now but it used to take sometimes a year to a year and a half to get the stamp.

twalla 1y ago
It depends on what type of transfer you're doing but it's way faster now: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times
- ty6853 1y ago
  It would be a form 1, there is no transfer in this case.
zomg 1y ago
A suppressor is transferred from an FLL to a buyer via a Form 4, not a Form 1. Form 1 is for the manufacturing of an NFA item and most people are not manufacturing suppressors, they are purchased.
- deleted 1y ago
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zomg 1y ago

All of these comments are wrong and you sound very uneducated. - Certain states have serialization requirements and registration once a firearm is assembled (the slide is connected to the frame). - Many states require a permit to conceal carry but may only require a driver’s license to purchase (meaning you can own but not conceal without a permit). - If a store posts signage saying firearms are prohibited, you legally can enter, however you can be trespassed if they discover you possess a firearm. This is generally not a criminal charge, unless your firearm is possessed illegally or another violation has taken place. - A “suppressor” (the more correct and accurate term) is purchased from an FFL and transferred to the buyer via an ATF Form 4 (not a Form 1). Additionally, certain states do not allow the possession of a suppressor, regardless of the legality at the Federal level. FFLs don’t generally manufacture suppressors, they sell them.

ty6853 1y ago
>- Certain states have serialization requirements and registration once a firearm is assembled (the slide is connected to the frame). Cool, not mine, not for a title 1 firearm like a handgun. I did say 'my state' not 'your state.' >- Many states require a permit to conceal carry but may only require a driver’s license to purchase (meaning you can own but not conceal without a permit). Cool, mine doesn't require a drivers license to make a gun and doesn't require a CCW or ID to conceal it. >- If a store posts signage saying firearms are prohibited, you legally can enter, however you can be trespassed if they discover you possess a firearm. This is generally not a criminal charge, unless your firearm is possessed illegally or another violation has taken place. My local bank ('a bank') doesn't have that, maybe yours does. >- A “suppressor” (the more correct and accurate term) is purchased from an FFL and transferred to the buyer via an ATF Form 4 (not a Form 1). Additionally, certain states do not allow the possession of a suppressor, regardless of the legality at the Federal level. FFLs don’t generally manufacture suppressors, they sell them. FFL type 7 makes suppressors for a profit. You generally cannot make silencers intended for sale without an FFL. A private individual can make them with a form 1 without involving an FFL. That is, you pay the NFA tax stamp filed under form 1 and make it, there is no transfer or from 4 needed if you legally make a silencer. I don't care which you call it, the NFA calls it a silencer, it is dumb but the government doesn't give a shit that you call it a suppressor they will lock your ass up if it meets their definition of a 'silencer' regardless of chosen semantics.