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Again, a little bit odd considering that the author is technically savvy enough to write an entire PKMS but didn't seem to consider that you can just check your

Again, a little bit odd considering that the author is technically savvy enough to write an entire PKMS but didn't seem to consider that you can just check your markdown notes into a git repository and sync with the native android/iOS Obsidian app on a mobile device. Also, Obsidian supports free iCloud sync if you are a Mac and iOS user. I know that's only a subset of users, but a nice option to get Obsidian to sync on the phone if you are in the Apple ecosystem. Also, they have a cheaper Sync plan now that is $4 per month. I can't really be bothered that Sync would cost up to 1000 in ten years. If you use Obsidian daily, it had an immensive value and it's cheaper than most services out there.

pflenker 1y ago
To add to your last point - 10 years is a very long time frame. Any recurring cost grows to eye-watering levels if the time interval is huge enough. In 10 years, a lot can happen in the space and you are not locked in with obsidian - if the next better thing comes along in 3 years, you can easily migrate.
memming 1y ago
iCloud sync is too unreliable and opaque for me.
- graeme 1y ago
  Yes I found it wasn't reliable. Perhaps it has improved, but Obsidian Sync has been excellent. I'm happy to support the developer as I'd like Obsidian to stick around.
- microtonal 1y ago
  It has been reliable for me with Obsidian. I still prefer Obsidian Sync because it has good integrated version history and shared vaults. Also agree with the sibling poster - I like subscribing to support them on a regular basis (and of course Catalyst).
- themadturk 1y ago
  Obsidian Sync is great (it helps that I got in on early-bird pricing...but it really is reliable). In addition, the Git plugin, coupled with Working Copy on my iPhone and iPad, also work extremely well, with a bit of added overhead. Though iCloud works reasonably well for just about everything else, I haven't used it for syncing Obsidian data.
ErrorNoBrain 1y ago
Syncthing... It can do it too handles syncing my pictures too
- Ardren 1y ago
  I can second Syncthing. I just use a simple markdown editor with Syncthing on Windows, Android, and a Linux.
- joseda-hg 1y ago
  Wasn't the syncthing android app deprecated relatively recently?
  - JadedBlueEyes 1y ago
    Syncthing-fork (of the android app, not syncthing itself) is a straight improvement.
    - _345 1y ago
      Yes, I use this and it is pretty solid. I can recommend it
  - troyvit 1y ago
    It was if you install it from google's app store, but it's still fully functional for now if you install it from F-droid.
    - spiffytech 1y ago
      I've been using Obtainium to install Android apps from Github releases and automatically update them. It's worked great. Syncthing's .apk release files can be found here: https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/releases https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/releases
mobilemidget 1y ago
Even setting up your own couchdb + livesync should be a small task if one can consider to 'write a whole app' to replace obsidian edit note, if you want to build something :) please expand livesync or a new plugin to allow easily sharing of self hosted obsidian notes :) All the ones I tried use some 3rd party hosting which I don't like even if its encrypted.
_345 1y ago
Yeah the article was painful to read. $1000 in a decade? Its a decade, who cares. If you make 100k a year its 0.01% of your salary towards something you found worthwhile enough to use for ten years straight the cheap sync plan is a scam though, it doesn't do enough to be even worth bothering with iirc
- throw10920 1y ago
  To add to your point, the phrasing of "$1K in a decade" seems convoluted to intentionally try to over-emphasize the cost. A much more fair/normal way of phrasing that cost would be $100/year, or $9/month, which is very little for someone who has the time and energy to write their own and gets enough value out of it that they find that worthwhile. The tradeoff doesn't make sense otherwise. If you're poor, then you wouldn't have the luxury of the available time to write your own PKM - the opportunity cost is huge, it's massively preferential to use an existing free solution that is "good enough" (Obsidian without sync or using your own sync solution, Dendron, Roam, Org). If you're not poor, then $9/month is a rounding error, especially compared to the value provided.

pflenker 1y ago

To add to your last point - 10 years is a very long time frame. Any recurring cost grows to eye-watering levels if the time interval is huge enough. In 10 years, a lot can happen in the space and you are not locked in with obsidian - if the next better thing comes along in 3 years, you can easily migrate.

memming 1y ago

iCloud sync is too unreliable and opaque for me.

graeme 1y ago
Yes I found it wasn't reliable. Perhaps it has improved, but Obsidian Sync has been excellent. I'm happy to support the developer as I'd like Obsidian to stick around.
microtonal 1y ago
It has been reliable for me with Obsidian. I still prefer Obsidian Sync because it has good integrated version history and shared vaults. Also agree with the sibling poster - I like subscribing to support them on a regular basis (and of course Catalyst).
themadturk 1y ago
Obsidian Sync is great (it helps that I got in on early-bird pricing...but it really is reliable). In addition, the Git plugin, coupled with Working Copy on my iPhone and iPad, also work extremely well, with a bit of added overhead. Though iCloud works reasonably well for just about everything else, I haven't used it for syncing Obsidian data.

ErrorNoBrain 1y ago

Syncthing... It can do it too handles syncing my pictures too

Ardren 1y ago
I can second Syncthing. I just use a simple markdown editor with Syncthing on Windows, Android, and a Linux.
joseda-hg 1y ago
Wasn't the syncthing android app deprecated relatively recently?
- JadedBlueEyes 1y ago
  Syncthing-fork (of the android app, not syncthing itself) is a straight improvement.
  - _345 1y ago
    Yes, I use this and it is pretty solid. I can recommend it
- troyvit 1y ago
  It was if you install it from google's app store, but it's still fully functional for now if you install it from F-droid.
  - spiffytech 1y ago
    I've been using Obtainium to install Android apps from Github releases and automatically update them. It's worked great. Syncthing's .apk release files can be found here: https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/releases https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/releases

mobilemidget 1y ago

Even setting up your own couchdb + livesync should be a small task if one can consider to 'write a whole app' to replace obsidian edit note, if you want to build something :) please expand livesync or a new plugin to allow easily sharing of self hosted obsidian notes :) All the ones I tried use some 3rd party hosting which I don't like even if its encrypted.

_345 1y ago

Yeah the article was painful to read. $1000 in a decade? Its a decade, who cares. If you make 100k a year its 0.01% of your salary towards something you found worthwhile enough to use for ten years straight the cheap sync plan is a scam though, it doesn't do enough to be even worth bothering with iirc

throw10920 1y ago
To add to your point, the phrasing of "$1K in a decade" seems convoluted to intentionally try to over-emphasize the cost. A much more fair/normal way of phrasing that cost would be $100/year, or $9/month, which is very little for someone who has the time and energy to write their own and gets enough value out of it that they find that worthwhile. The tradeoff doesn't make sense otherwise. If you're poor, then you wouldn't have the luxury of the available time to write your own PKM - the opportunity cost is huge, it's massively preferential to use an existing free solution that is "good enough" (Obsidian without sync or using your own sync solution, Dendron, Roam, Org). If you're not poor, then $9/month is a rounding error, especially compared to the value provided.