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Is a liquor license required to deliver alcohol in CA? I don't see Instacart on a quick scan of CA ABC - http://www.abc.ca.gov/datport/LQSMenu.html http://www.

by jonmc12 14y ago

Is a liquor license required to deliver alcohol in CA? I don't see Instacart on a quick scan of CA ABC - http://www.abc.ca.gov/datport/LQSMenu.html http://www.abc.ca.gov/datport/LQSMenu.html If a license is required, and they did not have one when applying to yc, it makes this story even more impressive!

baddox 14y ago
Can I call my friend and have him bring me some beer? What if I pay him a bit extra to cover the hassle? Now what if it's my personal assistant, or butler?
- prodigal_erik 14y ago
  After reading jwz's horror stories about that bureaucracy, I wouldn't be surprised if all of those were illegal but very selectively enforced.
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- jasonlotito 14y ago
  And now, what if it's a stranger employed by someone else, and they deliver the beer to under-aged individuals? It's a real and valid concern, and dismissing it with silly questions about friends like a weasel doesn't resolve the concern.
  - baddox 14y ago
    If a stranger (or anyone) physically hands alcohol to a minor, then a crime has been committed. What is so complicated about that?
    - jasonlotito 14y ago
      I don't know. You were the one proposing questions regarding liquor laws. Apparently it isn't as simple as you'd like to believe. But no, ignore questions and remain ignorant of realities or laws. Edit: I mean, seriously, you try and act like some smart guy proposing "insightful questions" about how there is no difference between paying your friend to bring you beer and paying a company to bring you beer, but it doesn't work that way. Instead of coming off as smart, you come off looking like a smart ass.
einhverfr 14y ago
I don't think so. IIRC UPS can deliver alcohol but when I search for UPS on that site, I only get one UPS store in Napa (are they selling wine too? I would think maybe given the location). So my thinking would be no. There might still be rules as to what one could do and alcohol rules in many states are just insane.[1] [1] I haven't read the California laws but Washington State exempts from all such laws any beer or wine which is produced in the home and not sold (the only law that does apply interestingly is a section for home-brewing competitions which is another exception!). If a 17 year old brews at home and then invites friends over and drinks beer with friends his age that violates no laws but if his parents had bought the beer that would. Similarly you can do paid workshops for brewing and let people under drinking age sign up, attend, and learn to brew but if they are under drinking age they can't take what they actually make out of class--- they are required instead to go buy more ingredients and make a new batch at home. Federal law is a little more complicated however, and involves issues of gallonage taxes and complicated questions as to whether home-brewing exceptions apply. In a college environment this involves the question of what constitutes a household and if there is anyone above drinking age in the household. I don't know of any case where BATF has stepped in to enforce gallonage taxes for home brewing that was legal under state law though. You are mistaken if you expect alcohol restrictions to make sense. They usually don't and anyone with some effort can usually find enough holes to get whatever they want legally.

by jonmc12 14y ago

baddox 14y ago

Can I call my friend and have him bring me some beer? What if I pay him a bit extra to cover the hassle? Now what if it's my personal assistant, or butler?

prodigal_erik 14y ago
After reading jwz's horror stories about that bureaucracy, I wouldn't be surprised if all of those were illegal but very selectively enforced.
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jasonlotito 14y ago
And now, what if it's a stranger employed by someone else, and they deliver the beer to under-aged individuals? It's a real and valid concern, and dismissing it with silly questions about friends like a weasel doesn't resolve the concern.
- baddox 14y ago
  If a stranger (or anyone) physically hands alcohol to a minor, then a crime has been committed. What is so complicated about that?
  - jasonlotito 14y ago
    I don't know. You were the one proposing questions regarding liquor laws. Apparently it isn't as simple as you'd like to believe. But no, ignore questions and remain ignorant of realities or laws. Edit: I mean, seriously, you try and act like some smart guy proposing "insightful questions" about how there is no difference between paying your friend to bring you beer and paying a company to bring you beer, but it doesn't work that way. Instead of coming off as smart, you come off looking like a smart ass.

einhverfr 14y ago

I don't think so. IIRC UPS can deliver alcohol but when I search for UPS on that site, I only get one UPS store in Napa (are they selling wine too? I would think maybe given the location). So my thinking would be no. There might still be rules as to what one could do and alcohol rules in many states are just insane.[1] [1] I haven't read the California laws but Washington State exempts from all such laws any beer or wine which is produced in the home and not sold (the only law that does apply interestingly is a section for home-brewing competitions which is another exception!). If a 17 year old brews at home and then invites friends over and drinks beer with friends his age that violates no laws but if his parents had bought the beer that would. Similarly you can do paid workshops for brewing and let people under drinking age sign up, attend, and learn to brew but if they are under drinking age they can't take what they actually make out of class--- they are required instead to go buy more ingredients and make a new batch at home. Federal law is a little more complicated however, and involves issues of gallonage taxes and complicated questions as to whether home-brewing exceptions apply. In a college environment this involves the question of what constitutes a household and if there is anyone above drinking age in the household. I don't know of any case where BATF has stepped in to enforce gallonage taxes for home brewing that was legal under state law though. You are mistaken if you expect alcohol restrictions to make sense. They usually don't and anyone with some effort can usually find enough holes to get whatever they want legally.