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We have one junior dev in a team about a dozen. They have had other roles with us, both at the current job and previous ones. We know they are smart, reliable,

by jbmsf 1y ago

We have one junior dev in a team about a dozen. They have had other roles with us, both at the current job and previous ones. We know they are smart, reliable, and motivated. It's a no brainer to spend time on training because, combined with the skills from other roles, they are likely to have a lot of leverage. But it's hard to imagine committing to the training without the history.

ramesh31 1y ago
>We know they are smart, reliable, and motivated. It's a no brainer to spend time on training because, combined with the skills from other roles, they are likely to have a lot of leverage. This is the problem, early career devs are extremely bimodal in skill distribution. You can luck out and land the 1 in 10 who just gets it and has the knack and has been coding since they were 12. But 9/10 times you end up with someone who has trouble even making a commit or with writing basic syntax, who just "picked" software as a career at some point in college for the salary. This has been my experience anywhere that doesnt have FAANG level cash to be hiring the top graduates at 150k+.
- platevoltage 1y ago
  >You can luck out and land the 1 in 10 who just gets it and has the knack and has been coding since they were 12. But 9/10 times you end up with someone who has trouble even making a commit or with writing basic syntax, who just "picked" software as a career at some point in college for the salary. This has been my experience anywhere that doesnt have FAANG level cash to be hiring the top graduates at 150k+. This is crazy to hear as someone who has been coding in one form or another since 14, and was driven into becoming a scrappy freelancer because no one would give me the time of day. Where are these kids who can't make a commit, or know basic syntax even coming from?
  - wonger_ 1y ago
    Maybe they played the interview game well? Or knew the right people at the right time?

by jbmsf 1y ago

ramesh31 1y ago

>We know they are smart, reliable, and motivated. It's a no brainer to spend time on training because, combined with the skills from other roles, they are likely to have a lot of leverage. This is the problem, early career devs are extremely bimodal in skill distribution. You can luck out and land the 1 in 10 who just gets it and has the knack and has been coding since they were 12. But 9/10 times you end up with someone who has trouble even making a commit or with writing basic syntax, who just "picked" software as a career at some point in college for the salary. This has been my experience anywhere that doesnt have FAANG level cash to be hiring the top graduates at 150k+.

platevoltage 1y ago
>You can luck out and land the 1 in 10 who just gets it and has the knack and has been coding since they were 12. But 9/10 times you end up with someone who has trouble even making a commit or with writing basic syntax, who just "picked" software as a career at some point in college for the salary. This has been my experience anywhere that doesnt have FAANG level cash to be hiring the top graduates at 150k+. This is crazy to hear as someone who has been coding in one form or another since 14, and was driven into becoming a scrappy freelancer because no one would give me the time of day. Where are these kids who can't make a commit, or know basic syntax even coming from?
- wonger_ 1y ago
  Maybe they played the interview game well? Or knew the right people at the right time?