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It has already spread to his bones. How does this happen without being detected earlier with the best level of care in the world?

mongol 1y ago
Are you referring to US healthcare? Or his care as an ex-president? Unrelated: It is less than a year since he decided to not stand for election. This time last year he planned to stay in power for four more years. Prostate cancer as is as I understand it slow-growing. Could it have been there already when he planned for re-election, how regular are health checks in that position?
nozzlegear 1y ago
Prostate cancer typically has no symptoms in its early stages. It only starts to show symptoms once it's grown significantly and started to spread. A physical exam (digital rectal exam) may not always detect it either, and (someone can correct me if I'm wrong) I believe they stop giving those once a patient reaches a certain age.
- dontTREATonme 1y ago
  This is true for the general populace but not for the “important” or ultra wealthy. The VIPs will often get annual MRIs specifically to catch this sorta thing early, eg RBG, yes she eventually died from cancer but she had 6 separate cancers which all were detected early. Each time she was able to return to work after relatively short treatments. She was also old and at some point your body cannot fight anymore no matter how early you catch it. In this case it truly appears like he/they(ie his family) knew a long time ago but either he didnt want to admit it or they didn’t want him to (which would force him to step down). So instead they hid it from the public and did what SJ did. Aka nothing.
buildsjets 1y ago
My working premise is that it was absolutely detected earlier, that he has been under treatment for some time, and that it is being publicly announced now in order to distract attention from and/or gain sympathy in light of the publicity Jake Tapper’s book has received in the past few days.
- hn_acker 1y ago
  I only recently learned about the book, just in time for Jake Tapper to say about Biden's medical cover-up [1]: > It is without question, and may be even worse than Watergate in some ways, because Richard Nixon was in control of his faculties when he wasn’t drinking [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5321613-jake-tapper-watergate-biden-scandal/ https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5321613-jake-tapper-water...
bitlax 1y ago
It was detected earlier but it's being released now to cover for a particularly bad news cycle.
- bdangubic 1y ago
  who is covering for what bad news cycle?!
  - anonbanker 1y ago
    The (Special Council) Robert Hur tapes with Biden leaked. Jake Tapper's book was released. Both evidence significant cognitive impairment in a sitting president. 25th Amendment can be applied retroactively. They needed something to shift that cycle, and distract.
    - nozzlegear 1y ago
      I'm pretty in tune with US politics and I wouldn't describe either of those things as a bad news cycle for Biden, chiefly because he's not the president anymore and hasn't been in the news for what amounts to an eternity in the political world. The only person I've seen mentioning this nothingburger had been Nate Silver, and that's more likely out of his relentless need to show that he was the first, akshually, to talk about Biden being old before everyone else was talking about Biden being old. Furthermore, I think it's questionable at best to suggest that someone released news as grave as their likely terminal cancer prognosis simply to shift the news cycle. That goes doubly for Biden, given his family history with (albeit brain) cancer. > 25th Amendment can be applied retroactively He's not the president anymore. What would be the point? Another bullshit end run to try to invalidate every law or EO he signed? > They needed something to shift that cycle, and distract. "They" being his family, or what? Who are they?
      - dontTREATonme 1y ago
        It’s kinda astounding how hard you’re trying to cover for a group of people who have such obvious contempt for you. Truly remarkable how hard people will go to never have to admit “losing face”. Not only did they very obviously lie to your face, they’re now continuing to lie and you, instead of calling out their lies, and demanding accountability or something are gobbling up the lies and asking for more. Your incredulity doesn’t make you look clever it makes you look foolish, because everyone else knows who “they” is. Everyone else knows why the Biden family would do the thing every single politician has done since time immemorial when a bad news cycle is about to break (ie distract with a sympathetic story). And you’re sitting here asking “what is a bad news cycle?” The Jake tapper book points to an intentional cover up by Biden, his entire family and staff. It implicates nearly the entire DNC leadership. It’s not just a sad story about elder abuse, it’s an entire administration spending four years overtly lying to the public. It calls into question not just all those people’s credibility and integrity but also implicates them in multiple felonies. It’s pretty obvious why his family and supposed friends would do anything to try to distract from their crimes and say “he’s dying leave him alone”

mongol 1y ago

Are you referring to US healthcare? Or his care as an ex-president? Unrelated: It is less than a year since he decided to not stand for election. This time last year he planned to stay in power for four more years. Prostate cancer as is as I understand it slow-growing. Could it have been there already when he planned for re-election, how regular are health checks in that position?

nozzlegear 1y ago

Prostate cancer typically has no symptoms in its early stages. It only starts to show symptoms once it's grown significantly and started to spread. A physical exam (digital rectal exam) may not always detect it either, and (someone can correct me if I'm wrong) I believe they stop giving those once a patient reaches a certain age.

dontTREATonme 1y ago
This is true for the general populace but not for the “important” or ultra wealthy. The VIPs will often get annual MRIs specifically to catch this sorta thing early, eg RBG, yes she eventually died from cancer but she had 6 separate cancers which all were detected early. Each time she was able to return to work after relatively short treatments. She was also old and at some point your body cannot fight anymore no matter how early you catch it. In this case it truly appears like he/they(ie his family) knew a long time ago but either he didnt want to admit it or they didn’t want him to (which would force him to step down). So instead they hid it from the public and did what SJ did. Aka nothing.

buildsjets 1y ago

My working premise is that it was absolutely detected earlier, that he has been under treatment for some time, and that it is being publicly announced now in order to distract attention from and/or gain sympathy in light of the publicity Jake Tapper’s book has received in the past few days.

hn_acker 1y ago
I only recently learned about the book, just in time for Jake Tapper to say about Biden's medical cover-up [1]: > It is without question, and may be even worse than Watergate in some ways, because Richard Nixon was in control of his faculties when he wasn’t drinking [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5321613-jake-tapper-watergate-biden-scandal/ https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5321613-jake-tapper-water...

bitlax 1y ago

It was detected earlier but it's being released now to cover for a particularly bad news cycle.

bdangubic 1y ago
who is covering for what bad news cycle?!
- anonbanker 1y ago
  The (Special Council) Robert Hur tapes with Biden leaked. Jake Tapper's book was released. Both evidence significant cognitive impairment in a sitting president. 25th Amendment can be applied retroactively. They needed something to shift that cycle, and distract.
  - nozzlegear 1y ago
    I'm pretty in tune with US politics and I wouldn't describe either of those things as a bad news cycle for Biden, chiefly because he's not the president anymore and hasn't been in the news for what amounts to an eternity in the political world. The only person I've seen mentioning this nothingburger had been Nate Silver, and that's more likely out of his relentless need to show that he was the first, akshually, to talk about Biden being old before everyone else was talking about Biden being old. Furthermore, I think it's questionable at best to suggest that someone released news as grave as their likely terminal cancer prognosis simply to shift the news cycle. That goes doubly for Biden, given his family history with (albeit brain) cancer. > 25th Amendment can be applied retroactively He's not the president anymore. What would be the point? Another bullshit end run to try to invalidate every law or EO he signed? > They needed something to shift that cycle, and distract. "They" being his family, or what? Who are they?
    - dontTREATonme 1y ago
      It’s kinda astounding how hard you’re trying to cover for a group of people who have such obvious contempt for you. Truly remarkable how hard people will go to never have to admit “losing face”. Not only did they very obviously lie to your face, they’re now continuing to lie and you, instead of calling out their lies, and demanding accountability or something are gobbling up the lies and asking for more. Your incredulity doesn’t make you look clever it makes you look foolish, because everyone else knows who “they” is. Everyone else knows why the Biden family would do the thing every single politician has done since time immemorial when a bad news cycle is about to break (ie distract with a sympathetic story). And you’re sitting here asking “what is a bad news cycle?” The Jake tapper book points to an intentional cover up by Biden, his entire family and staff. It implicates nearly the entire DNC leadership. It’s not just a sad story about elder abuse, it’s an entire administration spending four years overtly lying to the public. It calls into question not just all those people’s credibility and integrity but also implicates them in multiple felonies. It’s pretty obvious why his family and supposed friends would do anything to try to distract from their crimes and say “he’s dying leave him alone”