Imo that's people trying to be too clever with the automation, inevitably resulting in situations where you'd want different behavior to your "smart" automation

Imo that's people trying to be too clever with the automation, inevitably resulting in situations where you'd want different behavior to your "smart" automation. I did that too in the very beginning but soon realized that you need subtle, non-intrusive rules that make your day ever so slightly more comfortable but don't get in your way if you do something unexpected. The problem is that HA gives you a million possibilities while Google and apple don't, and most techies just fall for it and start over engineering the shit out of it only to annoy the rest of their family to no end and then getting rid of everything again.