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[8,9 dup] checked the course catalog and there are classes on topics that I think most would consider social activism. The CS professor just running a word sea

by Braxton1980 1y ago

[8,9 dup] checked the course catalog and there are classes on topics that I think most would consider social activism. The CS professor just running a word search is a poor experiment but this doesn't negate your point. [1] The DEI intitive is social activism [2] True but not an official school policy but a professor [3] Independent organization [4] Article on protests and mentions faculty support them [5-6] Accusations [7] True These are good examples. What about indoctrination though and is it wrong for Harvard to be social activists?

firesteelrain 1y ago
The computer science professor isn’t some nobody either - long time faculty, graduated in 1968, former Dean. In the case of the curriculum, it suggests an institutional preference for particular ideological narratives Harvard selectively aligned with or tolerated specific activist ideologies while suppressing or distancing themselves from others For DEI (which is just rebranded now honestly), it suggests that Harvard pushes only progressive policies and indoctrinated their students in this ideology. They shouldn’t indoctrinate any students whatsoever
- Braxton1980 1y ago
  >They shouldn’t indoctrinate any students whatsoever Are there? >suggests that Harvard pushes only progressive policies How does Harvard's DEI program suggest they ONLY push progressive policies?
  - firesteelrain 1y ago
    See this. I was going to copy/paste https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/ip031k/comment/g4h3jiq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/ip031k/commen...
    - Braxton1980 1y ago
      Can you because it just opens to the post on my phone.
      - firesteelrain 1y ago
        “ Just because they are not intentionally indoctrinating does not mean the overwhelming majority of voices being liberal does not create a force to push people in that direction more than they would be otherwise. It can also create a circle where people who are more conservative are less likely to view universites favorably, and therefore attend less and in different departments, thus creating an even more overwhelming majority. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/07/10/sharp-partisan-divisions-in-views-of-national-institutions/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/07/10/sharp-partis... This shows the difference in thinking between left and right on higher education. In general the longer you are at college, the more likely you are to be liberal. Is that 'indoctrination'? No, but I think it's a bit silly to not see a stray thumb on the scale”
- Braxton1980 1y ago
  >The computer science professor isn’t some nobody either - long time faculty, graduated in 1968, former Dean. That's nice "Although acknowledging his experiment’s limitations – “word frequency is an imperfect measure” The classes exist and he could have confirmed by attending them or checking course material. I was complaining about his lazy method It doesn't matter I said you proved that point
  - firesteelrain 1y ago
    I came across the Harvard report from April that was just released. Notably, look at page 8 of 311 and the second paragraph https://www.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/FINAL-Harvard-ASAIB-Report-4.29.25.pdf https://www.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/FINAL-Har...

firesteelrain 1y ago

The computer science professor isn’t some nobody either - long time faculty, graduated in 1968, former Dean. In the case of the curriculum, it suggests an institutional preference for particular ideological narratives Harvard selectively aligned with or tolerated specific activist ideologies while suppressing or distancing themselves from others For DEI (which is just rebranded now honestly), it suggests that Harvard pushes only progressive policies and indoctrinated their students in this ideology. They shouldn’t indoctrinate any students whatsoever

Braxton1980 1y ago
>They shouldn’t indoctrinate any students whatsoever Are there? >suggests that Harvard pushes only progressive policies How does Harvard's DEI program suggest they ONLY push progressive policies?
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  See this. I was going to copy/paste https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/ip031k/comment/g4h3jiq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/ip031k/commen...
  - Braxton1980 1y ago
    Can you because it just opens to the post on my phone.
    - firesteelrain 1y ago
      “ Just because they are not intentionally indoctrinating does not mean the overwhelming majority of voices being liberal does not create a force to push people in that direction more than they would be otherwise. It can also create a circle where people who are more conservative are less likely to view universites favorably, and therefore attend less and in different departments, thus creating an even more overwhelming majority. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/07/10/sharp-partisan-divisions-in-views-of-national-institutions/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/07/10/sharp-partis... This shows the difference in thinking between left and right on higher education. In general the longer you are at college, the more likely you are to be liberal. Is that 'indoctrination'? No, but I think it's a bit silly to not see a stray thumb on the scale”
Braxton1980 1y ago
>The computer science professor isn’t some nobody either - long time faculty, graduated in 1968, former Dean. That's nice "Although acknowledging his experiment’s limitations – “word frequency is an imperfect measure” The classes exist and he could have confirmed by attending them or checking course material. I was complaining about his lazy method It doesn't matter I said you proved that point
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  I came across the Harvard report from April that was just released. Notably, look at page 8 of 311 and the second paragraph https://www.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/FINAL-Harvard-ASAIB-Report-4.29.25.pdf https://www.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/FINAL-Har...