> I don't think it's possible to generate an acceptable story without reasoning. If I look back at any article, book, movie, or conversation that I liked, it a

> I don't think it's possible to generate an acceptable story without reasoning. If I look back at any article, book, movie, or conversation that I liked, it always had this essential ingredient: it had to make sense, AND it had to introduce some novel fact (or idea) that led to implications that were entertaining somehow (intriguing, revelatory, amusing, etc). Would this be possible without the author having some idea of how reasoning works? Or of what facts are novel or could lead to surprise of some kind? No is the obvious answer to both. Until I see clear evidence that LLMs have mastered both logic and the concept of what knowledge is and is not intriguing to a human, I foresee little creative output from any LLM that will 'move the needle' creatively. Until then, LLM-generated fare will remain the uninspired factory produce of infinite monkeys and typewriters...