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I like the beeb, but I don't watch it since I can only buy an annual licence and if they can afford to pay millions on individual presenters they don't need my

I like the beeb, but I don't watch it since I can only buy an annual licence and if they can afford to pay millions on individual presenters they don't need my money. Bring in monthly subs and cap presenter salaries and I'll dip in from time to time.

permo-w 1y ago
I agree that they should let people subscribe monthly, but this is a completely illogical take. you might as well say you don't want to go to the cinema because the lead actor was paid the market rate for the job. if you don't like Gary Lineker, just say that, don't come out with this sideways attempt at nobility
- nprateem 1y ago
  Gary Lineker, the radio presenters, news readers. Fine if you're commercial but in no world is it justified to pay the likes of Huw Edwards £600k to read the news, then whinge about not having enough money as a public broadcaster. "Oh, but if we don't pay them they'll leave" Let them go! I'd happily read some words for a few hours each day for a mere £200k.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    The world we live in, apparently, since they're getting that much money to do those jobs as we speak. Might as well complain about executive pay and the Royal estates while you're at it.
  - robbomacrae 1y ago
    Footballers make 300k a week and no one complains. This is a post about the slim survival chances of British media.. well salary caps will be the nail in the coffin as talent will simply go whey get the best deal.
    - zimpenfish 1y ago
      > Footballers make 300k a week and no one complains To be fair, plenty of fans (and the occasional pundit) complain (and have been complaining for years) but unless the authorities get involved (FA, UEFA, FIFA, etc.) and implement proper financial controls (there's some coming in 2025/26 around player salaries but we also need controls on money coming from TV rights, self-sponsorships, etc.) with actual transparent penalties (they're still soft-pedalling City whilst kicking Everton and Forest), nothing will happen.
      - robbomacrae 1y ago
        As an Everton fan I agree about city but I don’t think we should try and control these other things. You’re literally trying to limit the input (tv revenue) and output (salaries). If this happened countries that believe in a free market will outcompete and destroy the premier league which is one of the few things this country has going for it..
    - nprateem 1y ago
      Like I said. Free market, who cares. But not for a publicly funded organisation. And if one group of talent moves on it'll make space for the next generation.
      - permo-w 1y ago
        >it'll make space for the next generation. space promptly filled by B or C tier talent as the best go and work elsewhere to get paid appropriately
    - gadders 1y ago
      Footballers don't take 300k/week of tax payer's money.
      - permo-w 1y ago
        it's not tax payers' money
  - permo-w 1y ago
    I completely agree with and understand this reaction to people like Huw Edwards being paid stupid amounts of money to read words off a screen while managing the colossal task of simultaneously looking concerned, doing a serious voice, and not vomiting or getting their nipples out. I personally think that BBC News should just be disbanded or spun off into a separate entity, because otherwise one day it will bring the whole institution down with it. reading the news is a genuinely low-skill job that could be done by literally anyone with a few weeks of training however, I think you're very wrong to include the presenting of entertainment and educational shows with that. presenting these shows well is something that requires a genuine art. if news presenters wages were capped, nothing significant would change. if entertainment presenters wages were capped, there'd be a huge talent drain and shows would become worse in quality, giving a massive advantage to the generally awfully produced commercial channels that make lower quality content interspersed with brainrot fucking adverts and phone in quiz competitions
LeoPanthera 1y ago
The license fee is in fact available monthly.
- nprateem 1y ago
  It's a way to pay the annual fee monthly. You can't cancel whenever you want.
  - teamonkey 1y ago
    You can cancel your TV licence part of the way through a year and get a refund if you’ve paid in advance. It’s not as easy as cancelling a streaming service though. https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/cancellations-and-refunds-top7 https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/c...
    - nprateem 1y ago
      LOL did you even read the page you've linked to? OK great, I can get a refund if I move into a care home. I think you're missing the point.
      - teamonkey 1y ago
        You’re misreading. No need to move in to a care home. You can cancel your TV licence at a monthly interval and give the reason “I no longer watch [UK broadcast] TV on any channel or service, or use BBC iPlayer.” If you pay for the whole year in advance you can apply for a refund for unused months.

permo-w 1y ago

I agree that they should let people subscribe monthly, but this is a completely illogical take. you might as well say you don't want to go to the cinema because the lead actor was paid the market rate for the job. if you don't like Gary Lineker, just say that, don't come out with this sideways attempt at nobility

nprateem 1y ago
Gary Lineker, the radio presenters, news readers. Fine if you're commercial but in no world is it justified to pay the likes of Huw Edwards £600k to read the news, then whinge about not having enough money as a public broadcaster. "Oh, but if we don't pay them they'll leave" Let them go! I'd happily read some words for a few hours each day for a mere £200k.
- fragmede 1y ago
  The world we live in, apparently, since they're getting that much money to do those jobs as we speak. Might as well complain about executive pay and the Royal estates while you're at it.
- robbomacrae 1y ago
  Footballers make 300k a week and no one complains. This is a post about the slim survival chances of British media.. well salary caps will be the nail in the coffin as talent will simply go whey get the best deal.
  - zimpenfish 1y ago
    > Footballers make 300k a week and no one complains To be fair, plenty of fans (and the occasional pundit) complain (and have been complaining for years) but unless the authorities get involved (FA, UEFA, FIFA, etc.) and implement proper financial controls (there's some coming in 2025/26 around player salaries but we also need controls on money coming from TV rights, self-sponsorships, etc.) with actual transparent penalties (they're still soft-pedalling City whilst kicking Everton and Forest), nothing will happen.
    - robbomacrae 1y ago
      As an Everton fan I agree about city but I don’t think we should try and control these other things. You’re literally trying to limit the input (tv revenue) and output (salaries). If this happened countries that believe in a free market will outcompete and destroy the premier league which is one of the few things this country has going for it..
  - nprateem 1y ago
    Like I said. Free market, who cares. But not for a publicly funded organisation. And if one group of talent moves on it'll make space for the next generation.
    - permo-w 1y ago
      >it'll make space for the next generation. space promptly filled by B or C tier talent as the best go and work elsewhere to get paid appropriately
  - gadders 1y ago
    Footballers don't take 300k/week of tax payer's money.
    - permo-w 1y ago
      it's not tax payers' money
- permo-w 1y ago
  I completely agree with and understand this reaction to people like Huw Edwards being paid stupid amounts of money to read words off a screen while managing the colossal task of simultaneously looking concerned, doing a serious voice, and not vomiting or getting their nipples out. I personally think that BBC News should just be disbanded or spun off into a separate entity, because otherwise one day it will bring the whole institution down with it. reading the news is a genuinely low-skill job that could be done by literally anyone with a few weeks of training however, I think you're very wrong to include the presenting of entertainment and educational shows with that. presenting these shows well is something that requires a genuine art. if news presenters wages were capped, nothing significant would change. if entertainment presenters wages were capped, there'd be a huge talent drain and shows would become worse in quality, giving a massive advantage to the generally awfully produced commercial channels that make lower quality content interspersed with brainrot fucking adverts and phone in quiz competitions

LeoPanthera 1y ago

The license fee is in fact available monthly.

nprateem 1y ago
It's a way to pay the annual fee monthly. You can't cancel whenever you want.
- teamonkey 1y ago
  You can cancel your TV licence part of the way through a year and get a refund if you’ve paid in advance. It’s not as easy as cancelling a streaming service though. https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/cancellations-and-refunds-top7 https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/c...
  - nprateem 1y ago
    LOL did you even read the page you've linked to? OK great, I can get a refund if I move into a care home. I think you're missing the point.
    - teamonkey 1y ago
      You’re misreading. No need to move in to a care home. You can cancel your TV licence at a monthly interval and give the reason “I no longer watch [UK broadcast] TV on any channel or service, or use BBC iPlayer.” If you pay for the whole year in advance you can apply for a refund for unused months.