7 ms·
Can I just say that Google AI Studio with latest Gemini is stunningly, amazingly, game changingly impressive. It leaves Claude and ChatGPT's coding looking lik
by wewewedxfgdf 1y ago
Can I just say that Google AI Studio with latest Gemini is stunningly, amazingly, game changingly impressive.
It leaves Claude and ChatGPT's coding looking like they are from a different century. It's hard to believe these changes are coming in factors of weeks and months. Last month i could not believe how good Claude is. Today I'm not sure how I could continue programming without Google Gemini in my toolkit.
Gemini AI Studio is such a giant leap ahead in programming I have to pinch myself when I'm using it.
- insin 1y agoIs it just me or did they turn off reasoning mode in free Gemini Pro this week? It's pretty useful as long as you hold it back from writing code too early, or too generally, or sometimes at all. It's a chronic over-writer of code, too. Ignoring most of what it attempts to write and using it to explore the design space without ever getting bogged down in code and other implementation details is great though. I've been doing something that's new to me but is going to be all over the training data (subscription service using stripe) and have often been able to pivot the planned design of different aspects before writing a single line of code because I can get all the data it already has regurgitated in the context of my particular tech stack and use case.
- CuriouslyC 1y agoI think reasoning in the studio is gated by load, and at the same time I wasn't seeing so much reasoning in AIstudio, I was getting vertex service overloaded calls pretty frequently on my agents.
- energy123 1y agoThey rolled out a new model a week ago which has a "bug" where in long chats it forgets to emit the tokens required for the UI to detect that it's reasoning. You can remind it that it needs to emit these tokens, which helps, or accept that it will sometimes fail to do it. I don't notice a deterioration in performance because it is still reasoning (you can tell by the nature of the output), it's just that those tokens aren't in <think> tags or whatever's required by the UI to display it as such.
- CuriouslyC 1y agoI'm really surprised more people haven't caught on. Claude can one shot small stuff of similar complexity, but as soon as you start to really push the model into longer, more involved use cases Gemini pulls way ahead. The context handling is so impressive, in addition to using it for coding agents, I use Gemini as a beta reader for a fairly long manuscript (~85k words) and it absolutely nails it, providing a high level report that's comparable to what a solid human beta reader would provide in seconds.
- wewewedxfgdf 1y agoIt is absolutely the greatest golden age in programming ever - all these infinitely wealthy companies spending bajillions competing on who can make the best programming companion. Apart from the apologising. It's silly when the AI apologises with ever more sincere apologies. There should be no apologies from AIs.
- thingsilearned 1y agocompanion or replacement?
- Terr_ 1y ago... Or saboteur. :p
- tonyhart7 1y agothey would replace entire software department until AI make bug because endless changes into your javascript framework then they would hire human again to make fix we literally creating solution for our own problem
- roflyear 1y agoOr, just let their users deal with the bugs b/c churn will be less than the cost of developers.
- noosphr 1y agoIt always is for the first week. Then you find out that the last 10% matter a lot more than than the other 90%. And finally they turn off the high compute version and you're left with a brain dead model that loses to a 32b local model half the time.
- Barbing 1y agoIf a user eventually creates half a dozen projects with an API key for each, and prompts Gemini side-by-side under each key, and only some of the responses are consistently terrible… Would you expect that to be Google employing cost-saving measures?
- petesergeant 1y agoIs this distinct from using Gemini 2.5 Pro? If not, this doesn’t match my experience — I’ve been getting a lot of poorly designed TypeScript with an excess of very low quality comments.
- christophilus 1y agoThe comments drive me nuts. // Moved to foo.ts Ok, great. That’s what git is for. // Loop over the users array Ya. I can read code at a CS101 level, thanks.
- alostpuppy 1y agoHow do you use it exactly? Does it integrate with any IDEs?
- Mossy9 1y agoJetbrains AI recently added (beta) access to Gemini Pro 2.5 and there's of course plugins like Continue.dev that provide access to pretty much anything with an API
- miyuru 1y agoThere is Gemini Code Assist. https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/overview https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/overvi...
- pimeys 1y agoZed supports it out of the box.
- beauzero 1y agoGive Cline + vscode a try. Make sure to implement the "memory bank"...see Cline docs at cline.bot
- sexy_seedbox 1y agoRoo Code + Roo Commander + Openrouter (connecting Gemini with Vertex AI) + Context7
- DonHopkins 1y agoJust install Cursor, it supports Gemini and many other LLMs right out of the box.
- johnisgood 1y agoUnfortunately I cannot use Cursor, not until they fix https://github.com/getcursor/cursor/issues/598 https://github.com/getcursor/cursor/issues/598. What about Zed or something else? I have not used any IDEs like Cursor or Zed, so I am not sure what I should be using (on Linux). I typically just get on Claude (claude.ai) or ChatGPT and do everything manually. It has worked fine for me so far, but if there is a way to reduce friction, I am willing to give it a try. I do not really need anything advanced, however. I just want to feed it the whole codebase (at times), some documentation, and then provide prompts. I mostly care about support for Claude and perhaps Gemini (would like to try it out).
- landl0rd 1y agoReally? I get goofy random substitutions like sometimes from foreign languages. It also doesn't do good with my mini-tests of "can you write modern Svelte without inserting React" and "can you fix a borrow-checking issue in Rust with lifetimes, not Arc/Cell slop" That doesn't mean it's worse than the others just not much better. I haven't found anything that worked better than o1-preview so far. How are you using it?
- wetpaws 1y ago[dead]
- ifellover 1y agoAbsolutely agree. I really pushed it last week with a screenshot of a very abstract visualisation that we’d done in a Miro board of which we couldn’t find a library that did exactly what we wanted, so we turned to Gemini. Essentially we were hoping to tie that to data inputs and have a system to regularly output the visualisation but with dynamic values. I bet my colleague it would one shot it: it did. What I’ve also found is that even a sloppy prompt still somehow is reading my mind on what to do, even though I’ve expressed myself poorly. Inversely, I’ve really found myself rejecting suggestions from ChatGPT, even o4-mini-high. It’s just doing so much random crap I didn’t ask and the code is… let’s say not as “Gemini” as I’d prefer.
- in_ab 1y agoI asked it to make some changes to the code it wrote. But it kept pumping out the same code with more and more comments to justify itself. After the third attempt I realized I could have done it myself in less time.
- Der_Einzige 1y agoShhh!!! Normies will catch on and google will stop making it free. But more seriously, they need to uncap temperature and allow more samplers if they want to really flex on their competition.
- energy123 1y agoCan you explain what you mean by "uncapping" temperature and "samplers"? You can currently set temperature to whatever you want. Or do you want > 2 temp.
- alecco 1y agoRemember when Microsoft started to do good things? Big corps suck when they are on top and unchallenged. It's imperative to reduce their monopolies.
- lifty 1y agoExcuse my ignorance, but is the good experience somehow influenced by Google AI Studio as well or only by the capability of the model itself? I know Gemini 2.5 is good, have been using it myself for a while. I still switch between Sonnet and Gemini, because I feel Claude code does some things better.
- DHolzer 1y agowithout wanting to sound overly sceptical, what exactly makes you think it performs so much better compared to claude and chatgpt? Is there any concrete example that makes it really obvious? I had no such success with it so far and i would really like to see the clear cut between the gemini and the others.
- yahoozoo 1y agoNice try, Mr. Google. But seriously, yeah, Gemini is pretty great.
- reacharavindh 1y agoI use Gemini2.5 Pro through work and it is excellent. However, I use Claude 3.7 Sonnet via API for personal use using money added to their account. I couldn’t find a way to use Gemini like a prepaid plan. I ain’t giving my credit card to Google for an LLM that can easily charge me hundreds or thousands of EUR.
- b0ringdeveloper 1y agoTry OpenRouter. Load up with $20 of credits and use their API for a variety of models across providers, including Gemini. I think you pay ~5% extra for the OpenRouter service.
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- bossyTeacher 1y ago> Today I'm not sure how I could continue programming without Google Gemini in my toolkit Anyone else concerned about this kind of statements? Make no mistake, everyone. We are living in a LLM bubble (not an AI bubble as none of these companies are actually interested in AI as such as moving towards AGI). They are all trying to commercialise LLMs with some minor tweaks. I don't expect LLMs to make the kind of progress made by the first 3 iterations of GPT. And when the insanely hyped overvaluations crashed, the bubble WILL crash. You BETTER hope there is any money left to run this kind of tools at a profit or you will be back at Stackoverflow trying to relearn all the skills you lost using generative coding tools.
- conartist6 1y agoYou don't worry that you can't think anymore without paying google to think for you?
- conartist6 1y agoOK, a better scenario than that: for some reason they cut you off. They're a huge company, they don't really care, and you would have no recourse. Many people live this story. Where once you were a programmer, if Google convinces you to eliminate your self-reliance they can then remotely turn off you being a programmer. There are other people who will use those GPU cycles to be programmers! Google will still make money.
- Eezee 1y agoI tried it out because of your comment and the very first prompt Gemini 2.5 Pro hallucinated a non-existant plugin including detailed usage instructions. Not really my idea of good.
- gundmc 1y agoCan you provide your prompt? This hasn't matched my experience. You can also try enabling search grounding in the right hand bar. You have to also explicitly tell it in your prompt to use grounding with Google Search, but I've had very good success with that even for recent or niche plugins/libraries.
- th0ma5 1y agoSo glad we're pinning the success and learning of new technology on random anecdotes. Do pro AI people not see how untenable it is where everything is a rumor?
- cooperaustinj 1y agoIt is only a rumor to people who refuse to put in effort.
- mostlysimilar 1y agoI'd rather put my effort into developing my own skills, not hand-holding a hallucinating robot.
- -__---____-ZXyw 1y agoI enjoyed the clarity of that sentence. It's wild to read. Some people are choosing the hand-holding of the hallucinating robot instead of developing their skills, and simultaneously training their replacement (or so the bosses hope, anyway). I wonder if "robot" was being used here in its original sense too of a "forced worker" rather than the more modern sense of "mechanical person". If not, I propose it.
- the_arun 1y agoAre you talking about Firebase Studio?
- mayas_ 1y agoI guess it depends on the type of tasks you give it. They all seem to work remarkably well writing typescript or python but in my experience, they fall short when it comes to shell and more broadly dev ops
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- CommenterPerson 1y agoSorry sounds like a marketing plug.
- belter 1y ago> Gemini AI Studio is such a giant leap ahead in programming I have to pinch myself when I'm using it Every time in the last three or four weeks, there is a post here about Gemini, the top comment, or one of the top comments is something along these lines. And every time I spend a few minutes making empirical tests to check if I made a mistake in cancelling my paid Gemini account after giving up on it... So I just did a couple of tests sending the same prompt on some AWS related questions to Gemini Pro 2.5 (free) and Claude paid, and no, Claude still better.
- Workaccount2 1y agoCan you share the prompts?
- oplorpe 1y agoI’ve yet to see any llm proselytizers acknowledge this glaring fact: Each new release is “game changing”. The implication being the last release y’all said was “game changing” is now “from a different century”. Do you see it? For this to be an accurate and true assessment means you were wrong both before and wrong now.
- ayrtondesozzla 1y agoI'm not an LLM proselytiser but this makes no sense? It would almost make sense if someone were claiming there are only two possible games, the old one and the new one, and never any more. Who claims that?
- oplorpe 1y agoI suppose my point is along these lines. When gpt3 was trained, its parent company refused to release the weights claiming it was a “clear and present danger to civilization”. Now GPT3 is considered a discardable toy. So either these things are going toward an inflection point of usefulness or this release too will be, in time, mocked as a discardable toy too. So why every 3 days do we get massive threads with people fawning over the new fashion like this singular technology that is developing is ackshually finally become the fire stolen from the gods.
- ayrtondesozzla 1y agoWell essentially then, I agree, I find it perplexing too. I got particularly burned by that press release a little before Christmas, where it was claimed that 4o was doing difficult maths and programming stuff. A friend told me about it very excitedly, I imagined they were talking about something that had really happened. A few days later when I'd time to look into it, it turned out that essentially we'd internal testing and press releases to go off, I couldn't believe it. I said - so, marketing. A few months later it was revealed that a lot of the claimed results in those world-changing benchmarks were due to answers that had been leaked, etc etc. The usual hype theatre, in the end
- 1y ago
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- MrDarcy 1y agoI’ve felt the same, but what is the equivalent of Claude code in Google’s ecosystem? I want something running in a VM I can safely let all tools execute without human confirmation and I want to write my own tools and plug them in. Right now a pro max subscription with Claude code plus my MCP servers seems to be the sweet spot, and a cursory look at the Google ecosystem didn’t identify anything like it. Am I overlooking something?
- thinkxl 1y agoI think using Aider[1] with Google's models is the closest. It's my daily driver so far. I switch between the Claude and Gemini models depending on the type of work I'm doing. When I know exactly what I want, I use Claude. When I'm experimenting and discovering, I use Gemini. [1]: https://aider.chat/docs/llms/gemini.html https://aider.chat/docs/llms/gemini.html
- teleforce 1y agoThere's a complex Numpy indexing codes riddle in the section of "I don’t like NumPy indexing" and Gemini Pro 2.5 came on top (DeepSeek R1, only get the first time right but not later) [1],[2]. > For fun, I tried asking a bunch of AI models to figure out what shapes those arrays have. Here were the results: Based on the results from the top 8 state-of-the- art AI models, Gemini is the best and consistently got the right results: [1] I don't like NumPy (204 comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43996431 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43996431 [2] I don't like NumPy: I don’t like NumPy indexing: https://dynomight.net/numpy/ https://dynomight.net/numpy/
- Saul1998zx 1y ago6451937099