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>I don’t deny Apple’s pettiness… Nonetheless, can you provide a different example of why devs are afraid of publicly criticizing Apple? Every subscription serv

>I don’t deny Apple’s pettiness… Nonetheless, can you provide a different example of why devs are afraid of publicly criticizing Apple? Every subscription service should have a banner on their pages saying signing up through iOS takes 30%. Many just disabled signing up. Of course maybe this isn't the best example since Apple actually made it against their rules to tell users it'd be cheaper to purchase on their site. Apple's rules undeniably cost end users money. Epic proved it by taking some of that 30% fee and giving it back to the consumer (you got more Fortnite credits buying on Epic store instead of Apple store). Why people try to defend Apple I'll never understand, my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose? But I'm not sure.

jillyboel3 1y ago
> Why people try to defend Apple I'll never understand, my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose It's this. Apple somehow managed to cultivate cult-like behavior in their users, which I've also never understood.
- kjreact 1y ago
  Because everyone who likes how Apple has made it easy for users to manage their subscriptions and enjoy the overall user friendliness of their products we are thus cultists who just blindly do as we’re told. Maybe some people don’t agree with your views; that doesn’t make them cult followers for having a different opinion. Edit: fuck I just got trolled. According to jillyboel profile we are all just fascists. And dang is preventing him from spamming his trolls on HN.
  - jillyboel3 1y ago
    if 3 posts every hour before getting rate limited is spamming sure
  - ApolloFortyNine 1y ago
    There's no law against you overpaying Apple when you could get more value by going off app. If you want to spend $14 for something that's $10 on Epics website, your welcome to do so. Epic will still get their $10, and you can gift Apple $4 for making it easy to cancel your future subscriptions.
- spwa4 1y ago
  > It's this. Apple somehow managed to cultivate cult-like behavior in their users, which I've also never understood. Because an iPhone is a status symbol, like a Mercedes, and thus "proves" that you are a better human being. It's literally about people's self-worth.
lasdp 1y ago
> Every subscription service should have a banner on their pages saying signing up through iOS takes 30%. Why do I as a user need this information? When I'm a on gas station, I don't see banners how much tax or fees I'm paying. I can find this information if needed, but total price is what I'd like to see in the first place.
dogleash 1y ago
> my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose? Apple vs Android is Coke vs Pepsi for Zoomers.
burnerthrow008 1y ago
> Why people try to defend Apple I'll never understand, my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose? But I'm not sure. Happy to help! It's because some of us are Apple's customers, not Apple's suppliers, contractors or "vendor partners". We customers like that Apple plays hardball with the people who would otherwise try to fuck us over. Remember that dev a few weeks ago who was giving examples of the "ways that Apple's IAP sucks"? Most of the things he wanted to do were dark patterns that are bad for customers. If devs have to raise their prices by 15%, so be it. I would much rather that one company has my PII than fifty, anyway.

jillyboel3 1y ago

> Why people try to defend Apple I'll never understand, my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose It's this. Apple somehow managed to cultivate cult-like behavior in their users, which I've also never understood.

kjreact 1y ago
Because everyone who likes how Apple has made it easy for users to manage their subscriptions and enjoy the overall user friendliness of their products we are thus cultists who just blindly do as we’re told. Maybe some people don’t agree with your views; that doesn’t make them cult followers for having a different opinion. Edit: fuck I just got trolled. According to jillyboel profile we are all just fascists. And dang is preventing him from spamming his trolls on HN.
- jillyboel3 1y ago
  if 3 posts every hour before getting rate limited is spamming sure
- ApolloFortyNine 1y ago
  There's no law against you overpaying Apple when you could get more value by going off app. If you want to spend $14 for something that's $10 on Epics website, your welcome to do so. Epic will still get their $10, and you can gift Apple $4 for making it easy to cancel your future subscriptions.
spwa4 1y ago
> It's this. Apple somehow managed to cultivate cult-like behavior in their users, which I've also never understood. Because an iPhone is a status symbol, like a Mercedes, and thus "proves" that you are a better human being. It's literally about people's self-worth.

lasdp 1y ago

> Every subscription service should have a banner on their pages saying signing up through iOS takes 30%. Why do I as a user need this information? When I'm a on gas station, I don't see banners how much tax or fees I'm paying. I can find this information if needed, but total price is what I'd like to see in the first place.

dogleash 1y ago

> my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose? Apple vs Android is Coke vs Pepsi for Zoomers.

burnerthrow008 1y ago

> Why people try to defend Apple I'll never understand, my guess is some people who own an iPhone have decided that's 'their team' and who wants to see their team lose? But I'm not sure. Happy to help! It's because some of us are Apple's customers, not Apple's suppliers, contractors or "vendor partners". We customers like that Apple plays hardball with the people who would otherwise try to fuck us over. Remember that dev a few weeks ago who was giving examples of the "ways that Apple's IAP sucks"? Most of the things he wanted to do were dark patterns that are bad for customers. If devs have to raise their prices by 15%, so be it. I would much rather that one company has my PII than fifty, anyway.