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>Is this true? Depends. Probably not. Code produced solely by AI with no inputs or modification is not copyrightable. But theres an amount of human labor and

>Is this true? Depends. Probably not. Code produced solely by AI with no inputs or modification is not copyrightable. But theres an amount of human labor and direction you can mix in to pass that hurdle. Likely: 1. If you never tell anyone its AI created it doesnt matter 2. Someone will test this in court one day and we will discover where the line is actually drawn Until then you should follow the Terms and Conditions of the tool you use, it probably assigns you all applicable rights to the generated code. Not a lawyer etc.

dragonwriter 1y ago
> If you never tell anyone its AI created it doesn't matter If you try to register the copyright (which you legally must to sue over copyright infringement), you must state whether it was AI generated and, if it was AI generated, provide the information that supports it being copyrightable for the Copyright Office to evaluate. Falsifying this information is a crime. If it ever goes to court and the code did not provably exist before AI coding became common, you will be probably be questioned about it, and failing to respond truthfully is, again, a crime. So, when talking about the ability to claim and enforce legal rights, "if you never tell anyone about it", means, "if you are willing to actively and criminally lie". > Until then you should follow the Terms and Conditions of the tool you use, it probably assigns you all applicable rights to the generated code. It probably explicitly doesn't claim such rights (because the tool owner has no basis for claiming them, especially since they may not even exist), but it can't "assign" you anything the party offering the T&C's doesn't have in the first place, and even if it tried to that assignment would have no effect.
- protocolture 1y ago
  >If you try to register the copyright Which legal jurisdiction? Because I don't have to register shit? >You don’t need to register for copyright in Australia. The moment an idea or creative concept is documented on paper or electronically it is automatically protected by copyright in Australia. Copyright protection is free and automatic under the Copyright Act 1968. >It probably explicitly doesn't claim such rights Most I have read assign everything to the user, Midjourney being an outlier because it reserves the right to distribute and remix your work without a bigger license fee. They do this for practical reasons, they don't want to be seen to own anything that might be associated with criminal activity. Sudowrite has their terms reproduced human readable. > We understand it's super important for you to retain ownership over the content you create, so whether you use Sudowrite to brainstorm, enhance your ideas, or fine-tune your writing, all the writing you generate remains yours. When you input text into Sudowrite and use its features to generate or improve content, the output is based on your initial input and creative direction. This means that the resulting content, enriched or transformed by Sudowrite, is considered your intellectual property. You have initiated the creative process, and therefore, the contributions made by Sudowrite in response to your inputs are yours to own, use, and distribute as you see fit.
kazinator 1y ago
If you get something upstreamed into a project based on misrepresenting is as human work copyrighted by you, you are doing a great harm to that project. Don't do that.
- mcny 1y ago
  It isn't "upstreamed" at all. The project readme clearly says special thanks to Claude. This is my own repo. What I wanted to avoid is hurting anyone who might come across this code in the future and unwittingly copy paste it but reading the replies, that is not really a concern if the "fear" is the code might be in the public domain. I don't mind the code being in the public domain. What I would mind is if anthropic or Google somehow owned the copyright.

dragonwriter 1y ago

> If you never tell anyone its AI created it doesn't matter If you try to register the copyright (which you legally must to sue over copyright infringement), you must state whether it was AI generated and, if it was AI generated, provide the information that supports it being copyrightable for the Copyright Office to evaluate. Falsifying this information is a crime. If it ever goes to court and the code did not provably exist before AI coding became common, you will be probably be questioned about it, and failing to respond truthfully is, again, a crime. So, when talking about the ability to claim and enforce legal rights, "if you never tell anyone about it", means, "if you are willing to actively and criminally lie". > Until then you should follow the Terms and Conditions of the tool you use, it probably assigns you all applicable rights to the generated code. It probably explicitly doesn't claim such rights (because the tool owner has no basis for claiming them, especially since they may not even exist), but it can't "assign" you anything the party offering the T&C's doesn't have in the first place, and even if it tried to that assignment would have no effect.

protocolture 1y ago
>If you try to register the copyright Which legal jurisdiction? Because I don't have to register shit? >You don’t need to register for copyright in Australia. The moment an idea or creative concept is documented on paper or electronically it is automatically protected by copyright in Australia. Copyright protection is free and automatic under the Copyright Act 1968. >It probably explicitly doesn't claim such rights Most I have read assign everything to the user, Midjourney being an outlier because it reserves the right to distribute and remix your work without a bigger license fee. They do this for practical reasons, they don't want to be seen to own anything that might be associated with criminal activity. Sudowrite has their terms reproduced human readable. > We understand it's super important for you to retain ownership over the content you create, so whether you use Sudowrite to brainstorm, enhance your ideas, or fine-tune your writing, all the writing you generate remains yours. When you input text into Sudowrite and use its features to generate or improve content, the output is based on your initial input and creative direction. This means that the resulting content, enriched or transformed by Sudowrite, is considered your intellectual property. You have initiated the creative process, and therefore, the contributions made by Sudowrite in response to your inputs are yours to own, use, and distribute as you see fit.

kazinator 1y ago

If you get something upstreamed into a project based on misrepresenting is as human work copyrighted by you, you are doing a great harm to that project. Don't do that.

mcny 1y ago
It isn't "upstreamed" at all. The project readme clearly says special thanks to Claude. This is my own repo. What I wanted to avoid is hurting anyone who might come across this code in the future and unwittingly copy paste it but reading the replies, that is not really a concern if the "fear" is the code might be in the public domain. I don't mind the code being in the public domain. What I would mind is if anthropic or Google somehow owned the copyright.