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Where's the AI of tomorrow going to learn from if nobody is posting Q&As online anymore?

stego-tech 1y ago
That’s a tomorrow problem. (As someone who is all too often hired tomorrow, at a fraction of the before rates, to clean up this mess)
chickenzzzzu 1y ago
information will be repackaged like credit default swaps in the mid 2000s.
bawolff 1y ago
From the official docs? AI is good at sumarizing after all
- tedunangst 1y ago
  Good luck with that. The last thing I used SO for was getting answers for SwiftUI and I can assure you the official docs did not contain the needed information.
- deleted 1y ago
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- Buttons840 1y ago
  I've been trying to get ChatGPT to write some Emacs Lisp for me and it sucks. Few things are better documented than Emacs. There's several hundreds of pages of documentation, and several million lines of Elisp, but apparently that's not enough. And I'm not asking for some beautiful architecture from ChatGPT, I'm just asking for simple hacks that get the job done. Elisp is designed to make simple hacks easy, but not easy enough for ChatGPT I guess. Like, I asked it to make a command which would move the "mark" and the "point" so that the full line was selected. If a selection covered only part of a line, I wanted the selection to expand to cover the full line. To do this, all you have to do is move the mark and the point so that they surround a line. ChatGPT couldn't do it. It would only move the point, but not the mark, it wouldn't do anything with the mark. I explicitly told ChatGPT "no, you have to set both the point and the mark correctly", and then it wrote even more code that only adjusts the point, but not the mark--it would move the point to the beginning of the line, and then move the point to the end of the line, never touching the mark--it's stupid.
nlawalker 1y ago
Other people's code on GitHub.
- jsheard 1y ago
  The other people's code which will have been AI generated by older, dumber models in many if not most cases? Possibly even written and committed by AI agents with no human review at all? European royalty tried this kind of thing and it didn't end well.
  - Funes- 1y ago
    You got this exactly right. I've been trying to sound the horn on this issue for years now, since GPT-3 got released and exploded into the mainstream and you could read and hear "you don't need to {x} anymore with AI" all over the place.

That’s a tomorrow problem. (As someone who is all too often hired tomorrow, at a fraction of the before rates, to clean up this mess)

chickenzzzzu 1y ago

information will be repackaged like credit default swaps in the mid 2000s.

bawolff 1y ago

From the official docs? AI is good at sumarizing after all

tedunangst 1y ago
Good luck with that. The last thing I used SO for was getting answers for SwiftUI and I can assure you the official docs did not contain the needed information.
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Buttons840 1y ago
I've been trying to get ChatGPT to write some Emacs Lisp for me and it sucks. Few things are better documented than Emacs. There's several hundreds of pages of documentation, and several million lines of Elisp, but apparently that's not enough. And I'm not asking for some beautiful architecture from ChatGPT, I'm just asking for simple hacks that get the job done. Elisp is designed to make simple hacks easy, but not easy enough for ChatGPT I guess. Like, I asked it to make a command which would move the "mark" and the "point" so that the full line was selected. If a selection covered only part of a line, I wanted the selection to expand to cover the full line. To do this, all you have to do is move the mark and the point so that they surround a line. ChatGPT couldn't do it. It would only move the point, but not the mark, it wouldn't do anything with the mark. I explicitly told ChatGPT "no, you have to set both the point and the mark correctly", and then it wrote even more code that only adjusts the point, but not the mark--it would move the point to the beginning of the line, and then move the point to the end of the line, never touching the mark--it's stupid.

nlawalker 1y ago

Other people's code on GitHub.

jsheard 1y ago
The other people's code which will have been AI generated by older, dumber models in many if not most cases? Possibly even written and committed by AI agents with no human review at all? European royalty tried this kind of thing and it didn't end well.
- Funes- 1y ago
  You got this exactly right. I've been trying to sound the horn on this issue for years now, since GPT-3 got released and exploded into the mainstream and you could read and hear "you don't need to {x} anymore with AI" all over the place.