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They would if the patient is alive and fighting them! In our case, the patient is society and it is quite definitely not all unified that we cannot pick and cho

They would if the patient is alive and fighting them! In our case, the patient is society and it is quite definitely not all unified that we cannot pick and choose. If the doctors want to save their patient, they either need to tie them down and do what is needed, or they need to work within the confines of what the patient allows while trying to convince them to allow more.

dgb23 1y ago
The patient is kicking and screaming, because they are an addict. Regardless, I’m not convinced by the parent comment. It basically suggests we solve this without analysis of costs and effects. Sounds insane to me. Especially since the most promising solutions come from rapidly developing technologies and research. Turning off the lights just sends us backwards.
- -__---____-ZXyw 1y ago
  > Especially since the most promising solutions come from rapidly developing technologies and research What solutions are you referring to? This sentiment baffles me when I see it. It's not like we learned we'd this problem yesterday, and now we've to guess how we might solve it based on guessing. For 35 years, "rapidly developing technologies and research" hasn't improved the numbers. I understand that there's a regular stream of news which touts one thing or another as a possible solution, but which one of them has done anything? How long do we wait for this techno-optimism to bear fruit?
  - dgb23 1y ago
    A few obvious examples are the large gains in grid stability and efficiency, electric cars, the adoption and progress of solar panels. The latter is outpacing the expectations. And it’s not just engineering and manufacturing. These things have to be installed, maintained etc. In different types of places, which means you need specialized knowledge for all sorts of things. On the research side there has been much progress on climate and weather models. Software also plays a role in all of these, and material science and… I’m not a techno optimist, but rather see these developments as incredibly necessary. Yes they should have happened yesterday. Yes I’m incredibly frustrated with political leadership all around the world and especially with outdated economic models. But the only way is forward if it’s not too late.

dgb23 1y ago

The patient is kicking and screaming, because they are an addict. Regardless, I’m not convinced by the parent comment. It basically suggests we solve this without analysis of costs and effects. Sounds insane to me. Especially since the most promising solutions come from rapidly developing technologies and research. Turning off the lights just sends us backwards.

-__---____-ZXyw 1y ago
> Especially since the most promising solutions come from rapidly developing technologies and research What solutions are you referring to? This sentiment baffles me when I see it. It's not like we learned we'd this problem yesterday, and now we've to guess how we might solve it based on guessing. For 35 years, "rapidly developing technologies and research" hasn't improved the numbers. I understand that there's a regular stream of news which touts one thing or another as a possible solution, but which one of them has done anything? How long do we wait for this techno-optimism to bear fruit?
- dgb23 1y ago
  A few obvious examples are the large gains in grid stability and efficiency, electric cars, the adoption and progress of solar panels. The latter is outpacing the expectations. And it’s not just engineering and manufacturing. These things have to be installed, maintained etc. In different types of places, which means you need specialized knowledge for all sorts of things. On the research side there has been much progress on climate and weather models. Software also plays a role in all of these, and material science and… I’m not a techno optimist, but rather see these developments as incredibly necessary. Yes they should have happened yesterday. Yes I’m incredibly frustrated with political leadership all around the world and especially with outdated economic models. But the only way is forward if it’s not too late.