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Honestly this sounds way more interesting than Eurovision itself.

by robertlagrant 1y ago

j4coh 1y ago
Reddit style drive by snark doesn’t work as well here imho.
- anthonymoose 1y ago
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- robertlagrant 1y ago
  > Reddit style drive by snark doesn’t work as well here imho. Isn't this the only snark and drive-by comment around? I think it's more interesting, just as I think a pit stop change is more interesting in F1 than most of the race itself.
Den_VR 1y ago
I’ve been a fan for almost 18 years, ever since some euro friends were talking about the voting system on IRC. Love the intersection between culture and geopolitics.
- isoprophlex 1y ago
  What politics? Saying or doing anything political gets you mad shade thrown your way, a lot of bad press, up to expulsion. I get that the big scrutiny against overt politics is something political in itself, but... To me the strictness towards the presiding mainstream opinion, the forced harmony, makes it less interesting.
  - mrtksn 1y ago
    It's not what they say on the stage but how voters from different countries behave. UK: 0 points total Cyprus: 12 points from Greece Azerbaijan: 12 points from Turkey San Marino singer: A Turkish guy sings in English Armenia: the song is in English instead of Armenian It gives you a clue on what's going on in every country. How nationalistic they feel this year, are they fixing their issues with their arch enemies, are they opening up to different cultures, do they feel part of the community, is everybody still annoyed by the Brits and did they took the event seriously enough to send a good song etc.
    - Steve16384 1y ago
      <spoilers>!
    - cjrp 1y ago
      The separate public and jury votes does now help with that, a bit.
  - Freak_NL 1y ago
    And yet the event is full of politics. From the voting cliques and countries favouring specific allies, to lyrics with hidden (or not so hidden¹) messages, it's everywhere. A lot of it is on a meta level though, leading to an event which taken at face value seems devoid of politics. 1: Georgia's entry in 2009 was called “We Don't Wanna Put In”…
  - mytailorisrich 1y ago
    No politics but Russia is banned... I think that it is rather as you suggest in your last sentence: There is strict "correctness" enforced, which is how things work in the EU in general.
- RajT88 1y ago
  I have religiously watched Eurovision after seeing Lordi open up for Type O Negative in 2008. To Europeans it is normal and old hat, but to an American like me it is almost too weird to be real!
Keyframe 1y ago
always has been. Eurovision almost each and every year had two streams of interest - contest itself and the technology and logistics behind it. I vividly remember the whole 1996 big talk around virtual stage tech by Silicon Graphics https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/techreview/trev_268-hughes.pdf https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/techreview/trev_268-hughes.pdf Their brand was even prominently displayed and mentioned before and during the live event. https://youtu.be/mmxNAU0_b0U?t=7954 https://youtu.be/mmxNAU0_b0U?t=7954

Honestly this sounds way more interesting than Eurovision itself.

j4coh 1y ago

Reddit style drive by snark doesn’t work as well here imho.

anthonymoose 1y ago
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robertlagrant 1y ago
> Reddit style drive by snark doesn’t work as well here imho. Isn't this the only snark and drive-by comment around? I think it's more interesting, just as I think a pit stop change is more interesting in F1 than most of the race itself.

Den_VR 1y ago

I’ve been a fan for almost 18 years, ever since some euro friends were talking about the voting system on IRC. Love the intersection between culture and geopolitics.

isoprophlex 1y ago
What politics? Saying or doing anything political gets you mad shade thrown your way, a lot of bad press, up to expulsion. I get that the big scrutiny against overt politics is something political in itself, but... To me the strictness towards the presiding mainstream opinion, the forced harmony, makes it less interesting.
- mrtksn 1y ago
  It's not what they say on the stage but how voters from different countries behave. UK: 0 points total Cyprus: 12 points from Greece Azerbaijan: 12 points from Turkey San Marino singer: A Turkish guy sings in English Armenia: the song is in English instead of Armenian It gives you a clue on what's going on in every country. How nationalistic they feel this year, are they fixing their issues with their arch enemies, are they opening up to different cultures, do they feel part of the community, is everybody still annoyed by the Brits and did they took the event seriously enough to send a good song etc.
  - Steve16384 1y ago
    <spoilers>!
  - cjrp 1y ago
    The separate public and jury votes does now help with that, a bit.
- Freak_NL 1y ago
  And yet the event is full of politics. From the voting cliques and countries favouring specific allies, to lyrics with hidden (or not so hidden¹) messages, it's everywhere. A lot of it is on a meta level though, leading to an event which taken at face value seems devoid of politics. 1: Georgia's entry in 2009 was called “We Don't Wanna Put In”…
- mytailorisrich 1y ago
  No politics but Russia is banned... I think that it is rather as you suggest in your last sentence: There is strict "correctness" enforced, which is how things work in the EU in general.
RajT88 1y ago
I have religiously watched Eurovision after seeing Lordi open up for Type O Negative in 2008. To Europeans it is normal and old hat, but to an American like me it is almost too weird to be real!

Keyframe 1y ago

always has been. Eurovision almost each and every year had two streams of interest - contest itself and the technology and logistics behind it. I vividly remember the whole 1996 big talk around virtual stage tech by Silicon Graphics https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/techreview/trev_268-hughes.pdf https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/techreview/trev_268-hughes.pdf Their brand was even prominently displayed and mentioned before and during the live event. https://youtu.be/mmxNAU0_b0U?t=7954 https://youtu.be/mmxNAU0_b0U?t=7954