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Its a filter for bad negotiators. Throw 1.5h commute on top of 9-10h work and you filter for people who have no sense of self-preservation and thus will also su

Its a filter for bad negotiators. Throw 1.5h commute on top of 9-10h work and you filter for people who have no sense of self-preservation and thus will also suck at negotiation. 3 years in burnout, rinse and repeat. Game-development already is a super-hostile work environment, where "talent" is regularly replaced by some starry eyed university-grad for cheap. If people are just ablative material and payment is all the captain crunch you can eat in the cafeteria, nobody at a cult gets to work remote.

FinnLobsien 1y ago
As someone who's not into gaming, it's still astounding to me how people endure the working conditions in that industry just because they're obsessed with video games. I suppose it's the weird dynamic in our society where you get paid less and have worse working conditions the more passion you feel for your work.
- blitzar 1y ago
  "Do what you love and you will never have to work a day in your life" You will also get paid less than you are worth and eventually start to hate what you love.
  - FinnLobsien 1y ago
    I think it's a psychological thing where we assume what's fun can't be highly paid and what sucks must be worth a lot of compensation. The intersection between highly paid and passionate is surprisingly rare.
    - PicassoCTs 1y ago
      It were okay, but the problem is- the industries that exploit the young and naive - actively pull out tentacles to draw in more of the young and naive. Thats what all the hollywood "how to become a star" and "talentshows" are.. get fresh meat..
    - krapp 1y ago
      That isn't it. Employers know that if you have passion, you'll be willing to work more for less money. Which is why they so often insist on passion. Also, I've seen plenty of people on HN insist that people doing "creative" work (excepting programmers, who are obviously worth every penny) should do so for free so as not to taint the purity of their work with capitalist incentives. It isn't an assumption that what's fun can't be highly paid, rather it's an assumption that what's fun shouldn't be highly paid.

FinnLobsien 1y ago

As someone who's not into gaming, it's still astounding to me how people endure the working conditions in that industry just because they're obsessed with video games. I suppose it's the weird dynamic in our society where you get paid less and have worse working conditions the more passion you feel for your work.

blitzar 1y ago
"Do what you love and you will never have to work a day in your life" You will also get paid less than you are worth and eventually start to hate what you love.
- FinnLobsien 1y ago
  I think it's a psychological thing where we assume what's fun can't be highly paid and what sucks must be worth a lot of compensation. The intersection between highly paid and passionate is surprisingly rare.
  - PicassoCTs 1y ago
    It were okay, but the problem is- the industries that exploit the young and naive - actively pull out tentacles to draw in more of the young and naive. Thats what all the hollywood "how to become a star" and "talentshows" are.. get fresh meat..
  - krapp 1y ago
    That isn't it. Employers know that if you have passion, you'll be willing to work more for less money. Which is why they so often insist on passion. Also, I've seen plenty of people on HN insist that people doing "creative" work (excepting programmers, who are obviously worth every penny) should do so for free so as not to taint the purity of their work with capitalist incentives. It isn't an assumption that what's fun can't be highly paid, rather it's an assumption that what's fun shouldn't be highly paid.