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TBH that doesn't look or sound so bad. I'd personally use a palm tree or coffee icon for this kind of message. But it is kind of alarming that Apple allows ext

TBH that doesn't look or sound so bad. I'd personally use a palm tree or coffee icon for this kind of message. But it is kind of alarming that Apple allows external payments now!! That's like... hell freezing over, or Dracula donating blood.

shash7 1y ago
Nah it's pretty bad. Me and you are in the tech sphere and we know the backstory. But imagine mom or dad viewing this screenshot and getting creeped out because of the red icon.
- nlitened 1y ago
  But imagine the flashlight apps and mindless-tapper games that subscribe some mom’s credit card to a 9.95 USD/day charge without an easy way to cancel? I am pretty sure that mom would be upset that her “iPhone” keeps stealing her money Edit: my fears may be overblown, but I am so happy that since getting my mom an iPhone and iPad many years ago, any need for my “computer guy” technical support has vanished.
  - klabb3 1y ago
    > But imagine the flashlight apps and mindless-tapper games that subscribe some mom’s credit card to a 9.95 USD/day charge without an easy way to cancel? I thought you were referring to the actual App Store until you said ”easy to cancel”. Sometimes when I read these opinions I wonder if we’re using the same App Store. Both Play- and App Store are not only full of deceptive marketing, but predatory pricing. I was looking for a timer and the first result (a camouflaged ad of course) comes with a $18/week subscription. Again, for a timer. The app stores are a scammers paradise. It relies on carelessness for IAP scams I guess, and endless ads (not labeled or shown in screenshots) otherwise. The actual security comes from sandboxing, which is a property of the OS, not the App Stores.
OsrsNeedsf2P 1y ago
They have obviously tested it and found that it deters their users from installing the app, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. I don't blame them for doing it, but as someone who spent years doing App Store Optimization (ASO), I can assure you this would tank your conversion rates.
- conartist6 1y ago
  So it would be fair to say they're going for round two in trying to sidestep the intent of the judicial order not to hinder competition? I only ask because the judge took a bite out of them the first time they did exactly that.
  - ffsm8 1y ago
    The bill hasn't been paid yet though. We'll have to wait and see before we can objectively say whether Apple's malicious compliance holds up.

shash7 1y ago

Nah it's pretty bad. Me and you are in the tech sphere and we know the backstory. But imagine mom or dad viewing this screenshot and getting creeped out because of the red icon.

nlitened 1y ago
But imagine the flashlight apps and mindless-tapper games that subscribe some mom’s credit card to a 9.95 USD/day charge without an easy way to cancel? I am pretty sure that mom would be upset that her “iPhone” keeps stealing her money Edit: my fears may be overblown, but I am so happy that since getting my mom an iPhone and iPad many years ago, any need for my “computer guy” technical support has vanished.
- klabb3 1y ago
  > But imagine the flashlight apps and mindless-tapper games that subscribe some mom’s credit card to a 9.95 USD/day charge without an easy way to cancel? I thought you were referring to the actual App Store until you said ”easy to cancel”. Sometimes when I read these opinions I wonder if we’re using the same App Store. Both Play- and App Store are not only full of deceptive marketing, but predatory pricing. I was looking for a timer and the first result (a camouflaged ad of course) comes with a $18/week subscription. Again, for a timer. The app stores are a scammers paradise. It relies on carelessness for IAP scams I guess, and endless ads (not labeled or shown in screenshots) otherwise. The actual security comes from sandboxing, which is a property of the OS, not the App Stores.

OsrsNeedsf2P 1y ago

They have obviously tested it and found that it deters their users from installing the app, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. I don't blame them for doing it, but as someone who spent years doing App Store Optimization (ASO), I can assure you this would tank your conversion rates.

conartist6 1y ago
So it would be fair to say they're going for round two in trying to sidestep the intent of the judicial order not to hinder competition? I only ask because the judge took a bite out of them the first time they did exactly that.
- ffsm8 1y ago
  The bill hasn't been paid yet though. We'll have to wait and see before we can objectively say whether Apple's malicious compliance holds up.