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Something nice from a cyberpunk series would work well. Snow Crash comes to mind as an, offhand, likely safe enough for teens book that isn't boring.
by mjevans 1y ago
Something nice from a cyberpunk series would work well.
Snow Crash comes to mind as an, offhand, likely safe enough for teens book that isn't boring.
- teddyh 1y agoMaybe if you censored out the underage sex?
- stevenwoo 1y agoI reread that book recently and that immediately raised a red flag where the author makes it seems like the girl consents as in "well, I guess this is happening" then proceeds to portray her as a enjoying it and not really getting into the details of how a person/body may react regardless of a woman's (in this case) consent. This is much better portrayed in My Brilliant Friend with all the complexity of emotion of the victim towards the act and their reaction. I really wish if one thing could be changed about that book is just simply making the 15 year old character an adult.
- mjevans 1y agoI do remember an attempted rape, but I didn't remember the underage part. Probably I was more focused on overpowering an attacker as a positive aspect. It was _many_ years ago that I read that book.
- novia 1y agoYes, you should teach the book that has a sex scene between a 15 year old girl and a 30 year old man to high school students.
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- germinalphrase 1y agoI was a high school English teacher for a decade. While there are texts that may be taught at the grade 12 or AP level that include sex and sexuality, “Lolita” is not being “taught often” at the HS level. I’ve never known it to be discussed in the classroom. I’ve certainly never seen it assigned.
- Der_Einzige 1y agoGod damn why do you people sit in denial about this!!?!?!?!?!? Yes it is taught in a lot of high school classrooms in America and folks love to pontificate with their weird justifications for it! 1. https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/691255?af=R&mobileUi=0 https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/691255?af=... 2. https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2018/05/14/teaching-lolita-still-appropriate-opinion https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2018/05/14/teaching-lol... 3. https://highschoolbooks.home.blog/2019/02/08/you-probably-shouldnt-read-lolita-in-high-school/ https://highschoolbooks.home.blog/2019/02/08/you-probably-sh... 4. https://www.thenabokovian.org/comment/71 https://www.thenabokovian.org/comment/71 5. https://www.aclu-or.org/en/news/lolita-and-freedom-read https://www.aclu-or.org/en/news/lolita-and-freedom-read
- aaronbaugher 1y agoThere's a lot of denial about the state of schooling. Most adults assume the school they attended in their youth is basically the same today, or maybe a bit worse, but it couldn't possibly be exponentially worse.
- germinalphrase 1y agoI was specifically speaking from my direct professional experience as a HS English teacher (in more than one state, including time doing curriculum review committee work across statewide districts).
- germinalphrase 1y agoI’m not in denial that someone somewhere at some time has taught Lolita at the HS level, but the suggestion that it’s common and “taught in a lot of high school classrooms” requires evidence. The same reason you find that idea infuriating is the same reason I don’t believe the assertion is true. As for your evidence, only the first link has anything to do with HS classroom, and it’s a single teacher teaching it in some capacity - not a discussion of school/district/state curriculum or an indication that the text was required reading. None of your other references have anything to do with HS curriculum or indicate in any way that Lolita is being commonly taught at the HS level.