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> could either optimize your design for what you have with a phone, or for what you have with a display and peripherals. It will never be as good as the system
by fsflover 1y ago
> could either optimize your design for what you have with a phone, or for what you have with a display and peripherals. It will never be as good as the system designed from the ground up to be just a single thing.
This conclusion looks unsubstantiated to me when you speak of the modern devices that have a sufficient performance for most typical tasks. You probably can't design a gaming computer+phone but nothing prevents you from making a GNU/Linux phone able to work with different desktop environments depending in its current mode. Indeed PureOS and Mobian operating systems already offer that and work well on my smartphone (Librem 5).
- maratc 1y agoNot talking about what's possible or impossible, just not seeing it gaining any significant market traction. Modern pentathlon is a sport where athletes ("pentathletes") compete across five different events. Even the best of them would be mediocre at best at any specific event competing against athletes who have trained for that specific event.
- fsflover 1y ago> just not seeing it gaining any significant market traction There can be a lot of reasons for that, like the duopoly forces preventing the competition (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21656355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21656355) or insufficient PR. > Even the best of them would be mediocre at best at any specific event competing against athletes who have trained for that specific event. In computing, if you have a general-purpose device, it usually can do most tasks sufficiently well.
- maratc 1y ago> duopoly forces preventing the competition Aka "malice". > or insufficient PR Aka "stupidity". While I love Hanlon's razor as much as anyone, I love Occam's razor even more. And the simple explanation for that is that people don't like to use a mediocre combo when they could be using several purpose-built devices which excel at a specific job. I like to go around with my Leatherman, but when I have a real job I get my toolbox out instead. > it usually can do most tasks sufficiently well An RV could do many "car tasks" sufficiently well, and it can do many "home tasks" sufficiently well, too. And while it has its place, it can't compete against the car + home combo, which is why most people have cars and homes but not RVs.
- fsflover 1y ago> > or insufficient PR > > Aka "stupidity". > > While I love Hanlon's razor as much as anyone Stupidity isn't necessary here. A small company simply has no resources for a large PR campaign. Also, nothing prevents a performant iPhone from allowing a full desktop mode except artificial software restrictions resulted from the greediness. Follow the money.
- apitman 1y ago> I like to go around with my Leatherman This is exactly what we're asking for. We don't want to get rid of our tablets and laptops. But we want leatherman-level functionality from our phones.
- maratc 1y agoThat's perfectly fine. You can get it today from Samsung, or maybe soon from Google. My argument is that Leatherman is not going to sell anywhere remotely to the level of the combination of purpose-made tools that it seems to incorporate. You're welcome to disagree.
- fsflover 1y ago> You can get it today from Samsung, or maybe soon from Google. No, you can't. There's no usable desktop software that you can run there. Artificial restrictions will stay, although might be slightly relaxed.