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is this even a widespread problem? kind of reminds me of the tiktoks of "hotel safety tips"[1]. Makes me think these levels of paranoia are unique to the US [1

by shlant 1y ago

is this even a widespread problem? kind of reminds me of the tiktoks of "hotel safety tips"[1]. Makes me think these levels of paranoia are unique to the US [1] https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/hotel-safety-hacks-tiktoks-essay https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/hotel-safety-hacks-t...

throwaway2037 1y ago
Agree. OP is weird. Google tells me: > Airbnb prohibits indoor security cameras and recording devices, including audio, in most listings globally. It should not be difficult to find a security camera. (Microphone is a different matter.) If you find one, you can report to AirBnB, and I am sure the renter will be immediately delisted. And, it is probably just plan illegal in many jurisdictions.
- theshackleford 1y ago
  > And, it is probably just plan illegal in many jurisdictions. Yes because of course nobody would ever do anything illegal.
  - throwaway2037 1y ago
    This is not a useful response. The intent of my comment was to say: If you are renting an AirBnB and you find "hidden" cameras, then you can first complain to AirBnB. If the local jurisdiction prohits cameras, then you can call the police to report it.
    - theshackleford 1y ago
      Neither is this. If I’ve already been recorded and say, the footage distributed no amount of complaining nor dealing with the police is going to reverse it.
- abxyz 1y ago
  Security cameras (like Google Nest) are not the concern people have: hidden cameras are. It is possible to rig an entire property without any chance of guests finding the cameras. The scale at which it happens is a question (and varies based on country) but the illegality isn't the issue. The dissemination of videos and photos secretly recorded of guests and their children is the issue. There are people in prison for doing this but the damage is done, videos and photos of their guests are online forever.
  - shlant 1y ago
    > The scale at which it happens is a question and my point is that there is no reason to think this is enough of a problem that any well-adjusted person should factor it into the "should I use Airbnb?" calculation. If someone thinks that is an issue then I would assume they never use public bathrooms.
Loughla 1y ago
That's not real. People don't live like that. That's just engagement slop for tiktok. Also, I would argue that it may not be common, but it's much more likely with airbnb versus a hotel chain. Two reasons; more access to the space without witnesses, and the owner is more likely to know if their preferred gender is going to occupy that particular space. Meaning, hotel staff can be walked in on by other hotel staff, and there is no guarantee that the attractive person you want to see nude is going to get room 203. Whereas you can see who is renting your Airbnb, and you have access to it by yourself all the time.

by shlant 1y ago

throwaway2037 1y ago

Agree. OP is weird. Google tells me: > Airbnb prohibits indoor security cameras and recording devices, including audio, in most listings globally. It should not be difficult to find a security camera. (Microphone is a different matter.) If you find one, you can report to AirBnB, and I am sure the renter will be immediately delisted. And, it is probably just plan illegal in many jurisdictions.

theshackleford 1y ago
> And, it is probably just plan illegal in many jurisdictions. Yes because of course nobody would ever do anything illegal.
- throwaway2037 1y ago
  This is not a useful response. The intent of my comment was to say: If you are renting an AirBnB and you find "hidden" cameras, then you can first complain to AirBnB. If the local jurisdiction prohits cameras, then you can call the police to report it.
  - theshackleford 1y ago
    Neither is this. If I’ve already been recorded and say, the footage distributed no amount of complaining nor dealing with the police is going to reverse it.
abxyz 1y ago
Security cameras (like Google Nest) are not the concern people have: hidden cameras are. It is possible to rig an entire property without any chance of guests finding the cameras. The scale at which it happens is a question (and varies based on country) but the illegality isn't the issue. The dissemination of videos and photos secretly recorded of guests and their children is the issue. There are people in prison for doing this but the damage is done, videos and photos of their guests are online forever.
- shlant 1y ago
  > The scale at which it happens is a question and my point is that there is no reason to think this is enough of a problem that any well-adjusted person should factor it into the "should I use Airbnb?" calculation. If someone thinks that is an issue then I would assume they never use public bathrooms.

Loughla 1y ago

That's not real. People don't live like that. That's just engagement slop for tiktok. Also, I would argue that it may not be common, but it's much more likely with airbnb versus a hotel chain. Two reasons; more access to the space without witnesses, and the owner is more likely to know if their preferred gender is going to occupy that particular space. Meaning, hotel staff can be walked in on by other hotel staff, and there is no guarantee that the attractive person you want to see nude is going to get room 203. Whereas you can see who is renting your Airbnb, and you have access to it by yourself all the time.