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This is fine. I was referring to actual evidence. The Pakistani generals were blatantly lying in their PCs. All the fact checkers in the world suddenly disappea

by sieve 1y ago

This is fine. I was referring to actual evidence. The Pakistani generals were blatantly lying in their PCs. All the fact checkers in the world suddenly disappeared. And the evidence presented on the Indian side which can be cross-checked using satellite imagery is ignored. And they have the audacity to "both sides" the event. The question that needs to be answered is: if Chinese weapons are so great, how was India able to hit deep within Pakistani territory AT WILL? Or, is it the claim that this never happened?

suraci 1y ago
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- sieve 1y ago
  > there's no evidence can prove Rafales have been shot down Even if a couple of planes are lost, so what? You lose lives and equipment when fighting a war. The Americans lost three F/A-18 Super Hornets in their expedition against the Houtis (who do not even have an air force). They are struggling to hit Houthi air defenses with their top-of-the line aircraft and almost escaped being hit multiple times.[1] I don't see the Americans whining about it. India has the money to replace any losses and buy more from any supplier in the world (we also have a homegrown defense industry). The Pakistanis are stuck with the export version duds that the Chinese supply them. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/trump-houthis-bombing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/trump-houthis...
  - suraci 1y ago
    I agree, india can still win even if a couple of planes are lost in fact i think it's a very good mindset as it helps avoid further escalation of the war > India has the money to replace any losses and buy more from any supplier in the world (we also have a homegrown defense industry). The Pakistanis are stuck with the export version duds that the Chinese supply them. Agree, India has the money to buy 6 more Rafales, however, I believe the J10CE might offer better cost-performance and could be worth considering

by sieve 1y ago

suraci 1y ago

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sieve 1y ago
> there's no evidence can prove Rafales have been shot down Even if a couple of planes are lost, so what? You lose lives and equipment when fighting a war. The Americans lost three F/A-18 Super Hornets in their expedition against the Houtis (who do not even have an air force). They are struggling to hit Houthi air defenses with their top-of-the line aircraft and almost escaped being hit multiple times.[1] I don't see the Americans whining about it. India has the money to replace any losses and buy more from any supplier in the world (we also have a homegrown defense industry). The Pakistanis are stuck with the export version duds that the Chinese supply them. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/trump-houthis-bombing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/trump-houthis...
- suraci 1y ago
  I agree, india can still win even if a couple of planes are lost in fact i think it's a very good mindset as it helps avoid further escalation of the war > India has the money to replace any losses and buy more from any supplier in the world (we also have a homegrown defense industry). The Pakistanis are stuck with the export version duds that the Chinese supply them. Agree, India has the money to buy 6 more Rafales, however, I believe the J10CE might offer better cost-performance and could be worth considering